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Offline Mr Gray

In common with many McCann supporters he is long on opinins and short on knowledge of the facts in my opinion. The two things seem related.

The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance but the assumption of knowledge is something  that applies to sceptics.. IMO.. Its ironic you criticise supporters but the debacle that is CMOMM... You regularly praise..
This film really had hit a nerve when you start to criticise... Many supporters
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Offline G-Unit

The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance but the assumption of knowledge is something  that applies to sceptics.. IMO.. Its ironic you criticise supporters with the debacle that is CMOMM... which you regularly praise..
This film really had hit a nerve when you start to criticise... Many supporters

I will criticise any journalist who spreads fake news. There is no excuse for it imo. If I can find the facts so can they and so can anyone who supports the McCanns.
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Offline faithlilly

 More from our very own Sherlock ( Smith ) Holmes.

‘Those who told me about the dogs’ searches say they involved little objective science. It has been suggested that the HRD dog was treated differently in the McCanns’ apartment than in the others. The dog kept sniffing and running off and it was called back on several occasions. Eventually it “alerted”, meaning it went stiff and stayed still.

Then the blood dog was called in and directed to the area where the other dog had alerted ‘

Eddie alerted by going stiff and stayed still ? Eddie ?  @)(++(*

Of course a journalist is only ever as good as his source.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

I will criticise any journalist who spreads fake news. There is no excuse for it imo. If I can find the facts so can they and so can anyone who supports the McCanns.
You criticised.. Many skeptics.... IMO your criticism is unjustified and inaccurate... It's sceptics who fit your description imo

Offline Mr Gray

More from our very own Sherlock ( Smith ) Holmes.

‘Those who told me about the dogs’ searches say they involved little objective science. It has been suggested that the HRD dog was treated differently in the McCanns’ apartment than in the others. The dog kept sniffing and running off and it was called back on several occasions. Eventually it “alerted”, meaning it went stiff and stayed still.

Then the blood dog was called in and directed to the area where the other dog had alerted ‘

Eddie alerted by going stiff and stayed still ? Eddie ?  @)(++(*

Of course a journalist is only ever as good as his source.

An interesting  comment... Confirmed in the files.. That further undermines the alerts.... Good find

Offline Vertigo Swirl

In common with many McCann supporters he is long on opinins and short on knowledge of the facts in my opinion. The two things seem related.
What rubbish, IMO.  There is a difference between having knowledge of the case and fixating on the irrelevant minutiae.  By fixating on the irrelevant you neatly avoid having to examine what is staring you in the face.  IMO.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

More from our very own Sherlock ( Smith ) Holmes.

‘Those who told me about the dogs’ searches say they involved little objective science. It has been suggested that the HRD dog was treated differently in the McCanns’ apartment than in the others. The dog kept sniffing and running off and it was called back on several occasions. Eventually it “alerted”, meaning it went stiff and stayed still.

Then the blood dog was called in and directed to the area where the other dog had alerted ‘

Eddie alerted by going stiff and stayed still ? Eddie ?  @)(++(*

Of course a journalist is only ever as good as his source.
Pathetic, IMO.  The dog alerted.  Does it matter whether Eddie went stiff or barked?  It’s entirely irrelevant. PS your passive aggressive approach to debating with me is also pathetic, IMO.  Either truly ignore my posts or address me directly.
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Offline faithlilly

An interesting  comment... Confirmed in the files.. That further undermines the alerts.... Good find

What was confirmed ? That the McCann apartment was treated differently? Do you have a cite ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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The finest investigators in the world have looked at this case (NSY) & they have not judged the parents to be suspects. Their suspect status was lifted by the PJ & the no credible evidence points to them. Those are facts.
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Facts that some people still cannot get their heads around, sadly.
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Offline VIXTE

To briefly answer your questions:_
1. No.
2. They touched upon that, more visually than in commentary.
3. Not mentioned at all. Only abduction or Amaral's thesis.
4. Not mentioned.
5. Not mentioned.
6. Not mentioned, apart from call between Murat & Malinka.
7. Only Murat & Malinka - but Metado3 investigated them & couldn't find any new evidence.
8. Morocco sightings feature but no, the man Mari Olli saw was apparently never identified.

Please do try to watch it all soon - I think it was worth watching.
Thank you so much, misty!
It seems to me that nothing new has been produced but it is just the summary of all other Madeleine documentaries.
When I think about that route the search dogs followed on the day 2 I feel like banging my head on a wall. When I think about this case over all these years I feel like screaming because to me it feels that this was the only strong thing they had.  Maybe others find it unimportant but to me it feels like MAIN. They had a walking child who left on foot and stopped at the car park. Whose car? Which car? Mobile pings? Masts? Who parked there? Was there a car that always parked there? Has anyone seen a car parked there at the time? These questions are always always on my mind whenever I think about this case. And why this lead was neglected? Because someone said "yeah, this child walked here at some point...." But these dogs would definitely pick up the most recent scent? And who is there to say that this was NOT the most recent scent, and actually the scent of that night? And then the dogs on the 8th, different set of dogs, picked up the same scent. The scent of a living child. And then it was not picked up on it because...? Because? I don't know. I had written about this many times but in this case this is the only thing that haunts me personally. And it is better not to mention how many documentaries I had seen, how many posts I had read, how many articles about this case... Still, this still feels like the only lead to me. This is one of the reasons why I stopped reading the posts, fighting about the little lines in articles written by people who don't even know the 10% of this case.. bashing about egos and opinions, grouping..
At the beginning, in first few months, when only one forum existed about Madeleine search everyone was so united and happy to help. Then the forum was divided into two because the moderators started taking sides.. this is when the bashing started and it seems to me never ended. 

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Thank you so much, misty!
It seems to me that nothing new has been produced but it is just the summary of all other Madeleine documentaries.
When I think about that route the search dogs followed on the day 2 I feel like banging my head on a wall. When I think about this case over all these years I feel like screaming because to me it feels that this was the only strong thing they had.  Maybe others find it unimportant but to me it feels like MAIN. They had a walking child who left on foot and stopped at the car park. Whose car? Which car? Mobile pings? Masts? Who parked there? Was there a car that always parked there? Has anyone seen a car parked there at the time? These questions are always always on my mind whenever I think about this case. And why this lead was neglected? Because someone said "yeah, this child walked here at some point...." But these dogs would definitely pick up the most recent scent? And who is there to say that this was NOT the most recent scent, and actually the scent of that night? And then the dogs on the 8th, different set of dogs, picked up the same scent. The scent of a living child. And then it was not picked up on it because...? Because? I don't know. I had written about this many times but in this case this is the only thing that haunts me personally. And it is better not to mention how many documentaries I had seen, how many posts I had read, how many articles about this case... Still, this still feels like the only lead to me. This is one of the reasons why I stopped reading the posts, fighting about the little lines in articles written by people who don't even know the 10% of this case.. bashing about egos and opinions, grouping..
At the beginning, in first few months, when only one forum existed about Madeleine search everyone was so united and happy to help. Then the forum was divided into two because the moderators started taking sides.. this is when the bashing started and it seems to me never ended.
Just because it wasn’t covered in the documentary doesn’t mean it hasn’t been investigated by the police.  Don’t despair.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

What was confirmed ? That the McCann apartment was treated differently? Do you have a cite ?


v) If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

Offline G-Unit

What rubbish, IMO.  There is a difference between having knowledge of the case and fixating on the irrelevant minutiae.  By fixating on the irrelevant you neatly avoid having to examine what is staring you in the face.  IMO.

Well quite. Who cares about the true facts. As long as someone is promoting the 'correct' belief' s/he will be supported and defended. IMO.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Well quite. Who cares about the true facts. As long as someone is promoting the 'correct' belief' s/he will be supported and defended. IMO.
That is not what I said, well done for putting your own spin on it.  This is how holocaust deniers work.  They seize on a small detail in a paper or book that is incorrect or partially incorrect, and from that they rubbish the entire paper or book, and use it to reinforce their belief that the holocaust never happened..  It’s a well worn conspiracy theorist tactic.
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Offline Lace

I watched part three last night.   Correct me if I'm wrong,  but did Amaral say a 'palm' print was found on the inside of the children's bedroom?    I thought the palm print was found on the balcony window.