what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?

[Mr Gray]

I know what the archiving report says.  It does not present evidence backing its claim, therefore your statement is a presumption without the slightest evidence to back it up.

I know both Gerry and Kate believe woke and wandered was unlikely.  Were the PJ now in a state of believing what the McCanns  believe?

My statement is a deduction.. Not a presumption

[Robittybob1]

My statement is a deduction.. Not a presumption

Prove to me it is "a deduction.. Not a presumption".

[Mr Gray]

Prove to me it is "a deduction.. Not a presumption".

I don't have to prove anything to you...do you think they would say highly unlikely  without any evidence to support that.... That doesn't make any sense... I would say they must have had some evidence ...they could have said unlikely... But they chose... Highly unlikely... That sounds like an opinion based on evidence  to me

[Eleanor]

I think most posters are, aware of the fact I've posted

Of course they are.

[Robittybob1]

I don't have to prove anything to you...do you think they would say highly unlikely  without any evidence to support that.... That doesn't make any sense... I would say they must have had some evidence ...they could have said unlikely... But they chose... Highly unlikely... That sounds like an opinion based on evidence  to me

But you have got no evidence of that evidence, other than your assumption come deduction.

Do you think the PJ did a great job in investigating the McCann case?

[Robittybob1]

I think most posters are, aware of the fact I've posted

Opinions are not to be confused with facts.

[Mr Gray]

Opinions are not to be confused with facts.

What we know as a fact is that the final report from the PJ considered woke and wandered as highly unlikely and s remote hypothesis

[Robittybob1]

What we know as a fact is that the final report from the PJ considered woke and wandered as highly unlikely and s remote hypothesis

You can't prove that they even gave it a full and honest consideration.  Having found what they thought was cadaver odour in the apartment, how could they think in terms of Madeleine wandering away from the apartment alive?

[Mr Gray]

You can't prove that they even gave it a full and honest consideration.  Having found what they thought was cadaver odour in the apartment, how could they think in terms of Madeleine wandering away from the apartment alive?

And you can't prove they didn't have information to support their thesis... What we know for certain is this is what they believed

[Robittybob1]

And you can't prove they didn't have information to support their thesis... What we know for certain is this is what they believed

You accused GA of lying.  So how can you be sure what anyone believes?

[Mr Gray]

You accused GA of lying.  So how can you be sure what anyone believes?

There is proof  of GA lying

[Robittybob1]

There is proof  of GA lying

That is what I mean.  If GA can lie so can the writers of the archiving report.  Why do you trust it so much?

[Mr Gray]

That is what I mean.  If GA can lie so can the writers of the archiving report.  Why do you trust it so much?

I see it as a piece of evidence ti be considered..
I think it must be based on some evidence
The, artvof being s good detective is working out who is lying... Who is telling the truth.. Who's mistaken etc

I believe  Kate.... The window was open and shutters raised

[Robittybob1]

I see it as a piece of evidence ti be considered..
I think it must be based on some evidence
The, artvof being s good detective is working out who is lying... Who is telling the truth.. Who's mistaken etc

I believe  Kate.... The window was open and shutters raised

So do I. 

[Wonderfulspam]

I see it as a piece of evidence ti be considered..
I think it must be based on some evidence
The, artvof being s good detective is working out who is lying... Who is telling the truth.. Who's mistaken etc

I believe  Kate.... The window was open and shutters raised

Yes, & she's not lying about that!  (Gulp)

https://youtu.be/WLvnfcl-Zkg?t=1370