A Room With A View...

[G-Unit]

Did the building at the top of the road have the same patio doors?  The criteria needs to be:

- Knew children were home alone

- Knew T9 were at Tapas every night from 8.30pm to latish

- Knew the patio doors were unlocked by virtue of the fact the McCanns were entering and exiting them every 30 mins or so.

May I suggest that you visit the timeline thread? The gaps available for a perp to leave the 'room with a view', get to 5A, grab MM and escape were very small.

[niklasericson]

I don't think there were any OC guests in the building at the top of the road?

Here is the bald playground man, Mr. T***** P**** on May 4 2007
I don't know if he stayed in that building, I have not checked it up in the files..

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[barrier]

Here is the bald playground man, Mr. T***** P**** on May 4 2007
I don't know if he stayed in that building, I have not checked it up in the files..

g29,according to a tapas booking sheet,is that, that building?

[Holly Goodhead]

May I suggest that you visit the timeline thread? The gaps available for a perp to leave the 'room with a view', get to 5A, grab MM and escape were very small.

Will do. 

I set up a test at home using a similar scenario ie entering and exiting same sort of gates, doors etc with a teddy bear including opening an internal blind and window and was able to do in 80 seconds.  This included applying tape to the bear's mouth but I didn't place it in a suitcase or holdall.  You could certainly do the lot in under 2 minutes no problem at all.   

[ShiningInLuz]

Could you identify them please?

1.  When starters and mains were being ordered.

2.  When starters were served and consumed.

3.  When mains were served and consumed.

[G-Unit]

Will do. 

I set up a test at home using a similar scenario ie entering and exiting same sort of gates, doors etc with a teddy bear including opening an internal blind and window and was able to do in 80 seconds.  This included applying tape to the bear's mouth but I didn't place it in a suitcase or holdall.  You could certainly do the lot in under 2 minutes no problem at all.   

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That, of course, isn't the whole story. At some point your perp has to leave the room with a view and go to the gate of 5A  During that journey they can't see what's happening. For all they know a member of the T9 left the Tapas as they left their view, reached 5A before them and is now inside.

[The General]

Will do. 

I set up a test at home using a similar scenario ie entering and exiting same sort of gates, doors etc with a teddy bear including opening an internal blind and window and was able to do in 80 seconds.  This included applying tape to the bear's mouth but I didn't place it in a suitcase or holdall.  You could certainly do the lot in under 2 minutes no problem at all.   

You did what? Can you imagine if your SO came in mid bear taping?

[Carana]

You did what? Can you imagine if your SO came in mid bear taping?

LOL

Good on Holly, though. :)

[Brietta]

Here is the bald playground man, Mr. T***** P**** on May 4 2007
I don't know if he stayed in that building, I have not checked it up in the files..

The trees outside block 5 have not yet been cut down in that photograph ... I think they are too dense from that position to allow a clear view of either Madeleine's bedroom window or the front door.

There are sight lines from block 6 as well as from residences in the car park where the GNR dogs lost the trail they were following ... and we know witnesses have described men on foot taking an interest in the Mccann apartment ... who as far as I know have not been traced.

[Vertigo Swirl]

o

That, of course, isn't the whole story. At some point your perp has to leave the room with a view and go to the gate of 5A  During that journey they can't see what's happening. For all they know a member of the T9 left the Tapas as they left their view, reached 5A before them and is now inside.

Two men, one is acting as lookout, mobile phone on vibrate to alert abductor of impending danger.

[Holly Goodhead]

o

That, of course, isn't the whole story. At some point your perp has to leave the room with a view and go to the gate of 5A  During that journey they can't see what's happening. For all they know a member of the T9 left the Tapas as they left their view, reached 5A before them and is now inside.

No not necessarily.  If 2 working together 1 could remain in the apartment and use a light/torch as a signal to the actual abductor eg two light flashes = T9 about to start their starters, possibly using binoculars.  If solo he/she may well have hid inside apartment, garden or alley waiting for a McCann check to be over knowing he/she would have 30 mins. 

JT/ROB/FO/MO were carrying out their checks via the front.  The perp only needed a clear second or two from the alley to the side gate.  Is it possible the perp climbed over the wall from the alley into the back garden?  I'm assuming the garden then leads up to the balcony?

[The General]

Two men, one is acting as lookout, mobile phone on vibrate to alert abductor of impending danger.

But didn't those crappy police check all mobile phone activity for instances of just that?

[G-Unit]

No not necessarily.  If 2 working together 1 could remain in the apartment and use a light/torch as a signal to the actual abductor eg two light flashes = T9 about to start their starters, possibly using binoculars.  If solo he/she may well have hid inside apartment, garden or alley waiting for a McCann check to be over knowing he/she would have 30 mins. 

JT/ROB/FO/MO were carrying out their checks via the front.  The perp only needed a clear second or two from the alley to the side gate.  Is it possible the perp climbed over the wall from the alley into the back garden?  I'm assuming the garden then leads up to the balcony?

This is all speculation, isn't it? Hit a glitch, invent an extra perp. Perhaps one day someone will manage to present an abduction story which has been carefully thought out, fits all the facts and makes sense.

[Holly Goodhead]

Does anyone have any images showing the back garden at 5A and an explanation about how it connects with the rest of the apartment?  Thanks.

[Holly Goodhead]

This is all speculation, isn't it? Hit a glitch, invent an extra perp. Perhaps one day someone will manage to present an abduction story which has been carefully thought out, fits all the facts and makes sense.

What isn't plausible or possible about my theories?  I presented two theories: 2 working together and 1 solo.