A Room With A View...

[Eleanor]

No, maybe not but she was an OC worker and was included in the original investigation and it's the same woman who was with him on the evening of May 3rd in Pdl.

Sorry, I didn't realise that, my bad.

However, am I right in thinking that they live in England?  If so than perhaps best avoided.

[niklasericson]

That's the one http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/HAYLEY-CRAWFORD.htm

How would you know about their martial status?

Everything is possible to find out these days if you know where to search.

[Robittybob1]

Everything is possible to find out these days if you know where to search.

If it is public knowledge why are you and Eleanor shy about telling me?

[niklasericson]

Sorry, I didn't realise that, my bad.
However, am I right in thinking that they live in England?  If so than perhaps best avoided.

Yes, they live in England and seem's to be a nice happy family so it's dual feelings to discuss this but on the other hand, the withheld information and the missing ~20-25 minutes in one of their statements should cause some kind of a reaction within the detectives, especially if this would be true.


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[Eleanor]

Yes, they live in England and seem's to be a nice happy family so it's dual feelings to discuss this but on the other hand, the withheld information and the missing ~20-25 minutes in one of their statements should cause some kind of a reaction within the detectives, especially if this would be true.

I have no doubt that Operation Grange has this in hand without any help from us.  So I think we should avoid any chance of Libel.

[misty]

Yes, they live in England and seem's to be a nice happy family so it's dual feelings to discuss this but on the other hand, the withheld information and the missing ~20-25 minutes in one of their statements should cause some kind of a reaction within the detectives, especially if this would be true.

Have you established which route NC travelled back to Lagos from Rua Direita?

[Brietta]

Have you established which route NC travelled back to Lagos from Rua Direita?

Just goes to show that there were many people going about their legitimate business on that night about whom little is known; in my opinion anyone wishing to keep their movements secret would have had no problem in doing so.

[niklasericson]

Have you established which route NC travelled back to Lagos from Rua Direita?

No I have not, but I would say these ~20-25 missing minutes was a minimum.
He said he left for his resident at 20:45 but she said they went to the reception at 21:00 to collect a service vehicle and travelled home in separate vehicles and arrived at about 21:15.
Was it she who came home at 21:15?
Or did both arrived at home at 21:15?
Did they both drove the same route on their way home?
A couple of more odd things in his statement is that he was talking about himself only.
No mention at all from him that his girlfriend was with him that evening when did the job at the OC.
No mention from him that they went together in same car from their home in Lagos to the OC.
Was it already planned before they left home that they would stop to collect a service vehicle on their way home?
If not, why did not NC drove the car himself from their home to the OC?
Was there a special reason why she had to drive him to perform a small maintenance job?

I've a theory(or questions maybe) why both of them left for OC in the same car and why he was only talking about himself.

[Robittybob1]

No I have not, but I would say these ~20-25 missing minutes was a minimum.
He said he left for his resident at 20:45 but she said they went to the reception at 21:00 to collect a service vehicle and travelled home in separate vehicles and arrived at about 21:15.
Was it she who came home at 21:15?
Or did both arrived at home at 21:15?
Did they both drove the same route on their way home?
A couple of more odd things in his statement is that he was talking about himself only.
No mention at all from him that his girlfriend was with him that evening when did the job at the OC.
No mention from him that they went together in same car from their home in Lagos to the OC.
Was it already planned before they left home that they would stop to collect a service vehicle on their way home?
If not, why did not NC drove the car himself from their home to the OC?
Was there a special reason why she had to drive him to perform a small maintenance job?

I've a theory(or questions maybe) why both of them left for OC in the same car and why he was only talking about himself.

I hope SY ask the same questions.

[Holly Goodhead]

Everything is possible to find out these days if you know where to search.

Do you have an entry card to GCHQ 

[niklasericson]

Do you have an entry card to GCHQ 

Nope, but actually I have been in contact with a guy on this case for years, he is a former GCHQ traffic analyst and interpreter of voice communications.
I've not come any closer to GCHQ than this.

[Holly Goodhead]

Nope, but actually I have been in contact with a guy on this case for years, he is a former GCHQ traffic analyst and interpreter of voice communications.
I've not come any closer to GCHQ than this.

Is there any evidence it is a feature in this case?   

I understand a lot of mobile calls were analysed to no avail? 

A lot of people were forensically aware of cell site analysis by 2007 due to the Omagh bombing in 1998.

[misty]

No I have not, but I would say these ~20-25 missing minutes was a minimum.
He said he left for his resident at 20:45 but she said they went to the reception at 21:00 to collect a service vehicle and travelled home in separate vehicles and arrived at about 21:15.
Was it she who came home at 21:15?
Or did both arrived at home at 21:15?
Did they both drove the same route on their way home?
A couple of more odd things in his statement is that he was talking about himself only.
No mention at all from him that his girlfriend was with him that evening when did the job at the OC.
No mention from him that they went together in same car from their home in Lagos to the OC.
Was it already planned before they left home that they would stop to collect a service vehicle on their way home?
If not, why did not NC drove the car himself from their home to the OC?
Was there a special reason why she had to drive him to perform a small maintenance job?

I've a theory(or questions maybe) why both of them left for OC in the same car and why he was only talking about himself.

I believe that, in order to travel back to Lagos after leaving the main OC reception on Rua Direita, NC would have had to turn left into a one-way system which would not have taken him back up Rua dFG Martins & past 5A again.
Madeleine would have had to ventured quite a way, unseen, to have arrived in the same location as the service vehicle he picked up.
Please note that NC was questioned in his native language by a PJ Inspector, which may explain the brevity of his statement. HC was questioned via an interpreter (Murat).

[ShiningInLuz]

I believe that, in order to travel back to Lagos after leaving the main OC reception on Rua Direita, NC would have had to turn left into a one-way system which would not have taken him back up Rua dFG Martins & past 5A again.
Madeleine would have had to ventured quite a way, unseen, to have arrived in the same location as the service vehicle he picked up.
Please note that NC was questioned in his native language by a PJ Inspector, which may explain the brevity of his statement. HC was questioned via an interpreter (Murat).

One simply heads east on the old road to Lagos.

[Miss Taken Identity]

No I have not, but I would say these ~20-25 missing minutes was a minimum.
He said he left for his resident at 20:45 but she said they went to the reception at 21:00 to collect a service vehicle and travelled home in separate vehicles and arrived at about 21:15.
Was it she who came home at 21:15?
Or did both arrived at home at 21:15?
Did they both drove the same route on their way home?
A couple of more odd things in his statement is that he was talking about himself only.
No mention at all from him that his girlfriend was with him that evening when did the job at the OC.
No mention from him that they went together in same car from their home in Lagos to the OC.
Was it already planned before they left home that they would stop to collect a service vehicle on their way home?
If not, why did not NC drove the car himself from their home to the OC?
Was there a special reason why she had to drive him to perform a small maintenance job?

I've a theory(or questions maybe) why both of them left for OC in the same car and why he was only talking about himself.

I would like to know this theory of yours it does sound interesting...


"One simply heads east on the old road to Lagos." who MBM or the couple?

I would hope local garages would have been contacted if this was part of the investigation.