A Room With A View...

[Vertigo Swirl]

If that’s the case think what can befall them in an unlocked apartment in half an hour writhing access to a cooker, kettle, steep stairs etc, etc, etc.

You seem to be saying... ah 30 seconds or 30 minutes...it’s all the same. If it’s going to happen it’ll happen.

No, what I am saying is that you can’t say for certain that no harm would ever come to grandchildren under your watch, it’s arrant nonsense and arrogant to claim you have some sort of parental superpower, IMO. 

[jassi]

Indeed, so best policy is not to leave them to fend for themselves while little more than babies. IMO

[faithlilly]

No, but at that age I wouldn't let her out to play  in the street on a dark October evening either.

So you believe that your granddaughter wouldn’t be safe if left alone for 30 minutes ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Indeed, so best policy is not to leave them to fend for themselves while little more than babies. IMO

...and if you really,really have to- then pay heed to the 3 year old who comes to tell you she is concerned about being left to baby sit when she is tired herself and needs her sleep and is upset her brother is crying and no one is there.

What does one do in these circumstances... well McCanns just bloody ignored it- if it ever happened that is.

[jassi]

...and if you really,really have to- then pay heed to the 3 year old who comes to tell you she is concerned about being left to baby sit when she is tired herself and needs her sleep and is upset her brother is crying and no one is there.

What does one do in these circumstances... well McCanns just bloody ignored it- if it ever happened that is.

Yes, one just doesn't know

[Erngath]

So you believe that your granddaughter wouldn’t be safe if left alone for 30 minutes ?

Not out in the street at aged five in the dark .
No..
In her bed, possibly a little safer.

[faithlilly]

No, what I am saying is that you can’t say for certain that no harm would ever come to grandchildren under your watch, it’s arrant nonsense and arrogant to claim you have some sort of parental superpower, IMO.

What I can say is that they will never come to any harm because I left them for dangerous amounts of time and what I can also say is that my grandchildren’s parent’s will never be fearful of being charged with neglect.

[faithlilly]

Not out in the street at aged five in the dark .
No..
In her bed, possibly a little safer.

Unless she’s tied to it I think not.

[Erngath]

Indeed, so best policy is not to leave them to fend for themselves while little more than babies. IMO

I agree.
Best not to leave  any child who is little more than a baby either inside or outside, whether in the street, or in a a play park,.or in a garden,or in a field without adult supervision.

[faithlilly]

I agree.
Best not to leave  any child who is little more than a baby either inside or outside, whether in the street, or in a a play park,.or in a garden,or in a field without adult supervision.

Or in an unsecured, unfamiliar apartment?

[Erngath]

Unless she’s tied to it I think not.

As a parent I did always think my children were possibly a little safer in their beds than out playing in the street.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What I can say is that they will never come to any harm because I left them for dangerous amounts of time and what I can also say is that my grandchildren’s parent’s will never be fearful of being charged with neglect.

You just don’t know. 

[Erngath]

Or in an unsecured, unfamiliar apartment?

I'm really not sure which would be the more worrying situation for a young child to be in.

In a dark street outside without parental supervision.
In bed asleep in an unsecured, unfamiliar apartment without parental supervision.
In a garden without parental supervision.
In a field without parental supervision.

[faithlilly]

As a parent I did always think my children were possibly a little safer in their beds than out playing in the street.

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While you were in the house I’d agree. Did you ever leave them there, alone, for 30 minutes ?

Do you know that under fives are at most risk from accidents in the home and  that accidents are the biggest cause of death in children over one ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm really not sure which would be the more worrying situation for a young child to be in.

In a dark street outside without parental supervision.
In bed asleep in an unsecured, unfamiliar apartment without parental supervision.
In a garden without parental supervision.
In a field without parental supervision.

To be honest, as a young child I was frequently in all those situations (substitute fields for jungle and rubber plantations filled with menacing rubber tappers and poisonous snakes), never did me no harm!