A Room With A View...

[Erngath]

But you certainly do find plenty only too willing to blame the parents of murdered children for the actions of others which are most certainly outwith their control.

One on the list is the mother of much loved April Jones who has been found wanting in the Kangaroo Court of opinion ...

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“These people get a bit of information, they don’t have the full story, and they make a judgement. But it’s horrendous for families. These are families who have enough to put up with,” she explained.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11527029/April-Jones-mum-receives-hate-mail-blaming-her-for-the-schoolgirls-murder.html

Sara Payne was also subjected to the same hateful abuse.

[Brietta]

Despite the success of this organised abduction gang in stealing Maddie & leaving no trace. They haven't gone on to abduct any other child, either in the Algarve, Portugal or anywhere on planet earth.

Perhaps they just went back to their day jobs.

How do you know that?

Do you think anyone with a modicum of intelligence would want to precipitate another furore replicating what happened after Madeleine disappeared?
There are many hundreds of thousands displaced, orphaned, lost or abandoned children all around the Mediterranean who might vanish as Madeleine did with no-one any the wiser or to raise the alarm or insist they are looked for.

[Erngath]

Good for you   

Thank you.
It's not so easy when children get older and you do want to and indeed have to encourage some independence .
Then the decisions are much more difficult to make.

[faithlilly]

Letting your children out of your sight at any time when they are young always requires a decision to be made, sometimes when the dangers and safeguards are recognised , parents may make the wrong decision.
Leaving your child asleep in an unlocked apartment and checking on them was a wrong decision.
Equally allowing very young children out to play on a dark evening without parental observation is also a wrong decision.
It may be a natural part of everyday life for some children but it is still placing a child in danger.
I would have chosen to do neither.

Nonsense.

[jassi]

Thank you.
It's not so easy when children get older and you do want to and indeed have to encourage some independence .
Then the decisions are much more difficult to make.

Certainly shouldn't be a problem with the under 5 s  -IMO

[Brietta]

So you are with the jemmied/non jemmied window entry exit.


Only 35 seconds away. yet they saw and heard nothing. then  they claimed they could 'see the apartment'  well they saw the roof at least. It was like sitting in your garden   a cultural thing they claimed.

utter tosh.

Spammer says

"Despite the success of this organised abduction gang in stealing Maddie & leaving no trace. They haven't gone on to abduct any other child, either in the Algarve, Portugal or anywhere on planet earth.

Perhaps they just went back to their day jobs."
 
 Or perhaps they did it as a bet...

Please do not presume on what I 'am with' or not with ... I find your posts are invariably nonsensical or patronising and ill informed ... and this one adheres to that level in my opinion.

[Erngath]

Nonsense.

In your opinion.
I disagree.
Letting  a small child  aged five or under out to play on a dark evening out with parental observation is in my opinion putting a child in danger.
Not only from road traffic but also the possibility of being hurt, abducted or murdered.

[Erngath]

Certainly shouldn't be a problem with the under 5 s  -IMO

It shouldn't be but many five year olds and even younger are allowed to play unsupervised in parks, streets etc.

[jassi]

In your opinion.
I disagree.
Letting  a small child  aged five or under out to play on a dark evening out with parental observation is in my opinion putting a child in danger.
Not only from road traffic but also the possibility of being hurt, abducted or murdered.

I think abduction would be very much the bottom of the list - after all, as Gerry himself said, abduction is incredibly rare - or something to that effect

[Miss Taken Identity]

Please do not presume on what I 'am with' or not with ... I find your posts are invariably nonsensical or patronising and ill informed ... and this one adheres to that level in my opinion.

And your opinion counts for nothing. It is you who claimed the unlocked door played no part in your percieved abduction- the other access was the chimney?

Your posts  re the subject are mostly newspaper clips and implying all those who do not adhere to the McCann agenda are evil trolls.You also type as someone who plays the word of the day and how to use it in a sentence game.   

[Erngath]

I think abduction would be very much the bottom of the list - after all, as Gerry himself said, abduction is incredibly rare - or something to that effect

I agree.
But yet it does happen.

[sadie]

So you are with the jemmied/non jemmied window entry exit.


Only 35 seconds away. yet they saw and heard nothing. then  they claimed they could 'see the apartment'  well they saw the roof at least. It was like sitting in your garden   a cultural thing they claimed.

utter tosh.

Spammer says

"Despite the success of this organised abduction gang in stealing Maddie & leaving no trace. They haven't gone on to abduct any other child, either in the Algarve, Portugal or anywhere on planet earth.

Perhaps they just went back to their day jobs."
 
 Or perhaps they did it as a bet...

It amuses me.

Yet another sceptic poster who does not acknowledge the existence of a front door.



I wonder why?

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't think that luck came into it.  I think the a well rehearsed plan was in operation into operation and I don't think the unlocked patio door had anything to do with it.
I think the consequence of her parents dining about 35 seconds distance away was relevant only in that the opportunity to abduct Madeleine was grasped perhaps earlier than anticipated.

But your opinions are at odds with experts and police officers from the UK of long experience all of whom believed the unlocked patio door was highly relevant:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khP0dEsZaug

https://www.bgpglobalservices.com/happened-madeleine-mccann-2/

[sadie]

So you are with the jemmied/non jemmied window entry exit.


Only 35 seconds away. yet they saw and heard nothing. then  they claimed they could 'see the apartment'  well they saw the roof at least. It was like sitting in your garden   a cultural thing they claimed.

utter tosh.

Spammer says

"Despite the success of this organised abduction gang in stealing Maddie & leaving no trace. They haven't gone on to abduct any other child, either in the Algarve, Portugal or anywhere on planet earth.

Perhaps they just went back to their day jobs."
 
 Or perhaps they did it as a bet...

Totally wrong,
1)   they saw virtually all the back of the apartment.

2)   they did not see the roof of the apartment


Of course they could see the apartment.   Anyone else would agree with the Mccanns on that one.

Have you been there and looked from the Tapas restaurant?   I have

[sadie]

But your opinions are at odds with experts and police officers from the UK of long experience all of whom believed the unlocked patio door was highly relevant:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khP0dEsZaug

https://www.bgpglobalservices.com/happened-madeleine-mccann-2/

I read Briettas post as meaning that she didn't believe the patio door was the way of entering or leaving.

Having been there, seen a good deal and thought about it in great depth and detail, I totally concur



I absolutely agree with Brietta


In my opinion the way in and out was via the front door