A Room With A View...

[Robittybob1]

According to Harrison the cadaver dog was brought in to search for remains

And? 

[Robittybob1]

I might be dogmatic but I don't think it's worth discussing the value if the alerts.. We each have our own view and change is doubtful... I think they are, absolute junk science... Others think they are near 100% accurate. Note I'm referring to the alerts... Not the dogs... The dogs, will reliably find cadaver odour if it's, there... It's, when it's not there the problem arises

How do you know when it is not there?

[The General]

According to Harrison the cadaver dog was brought in to search for remains

'Remains', I suspect, is the term he used to explain it to laymen. 'Remains' may include vestiges - which they are capable of detecting.

[The General]

How do you know when it is not there?

I think he means when the cadaver isn't there. Which is an odd assertion.

[Mr Gray]

'Remains', I suspect, is the term he used to explain it to laymen. 'Remains' may include vestiges - which they are capable of detecting.

I agree ...but physical remains

[Mr Gray]

How do you know when it is not there?

you dont

[Robittybob1]

I think he means when the cadaver isn't there. Which is an odd assertion.

I'll see if it is possible to insert "when the cadaver isn't there" into Davel's sentence.
The dogs, will reliably find cadaver odour if it's, there... It's, when it's not there the problem arises

1.  The dogs, will reliably find cadaver odour if it's, there... It's, when the cadaver isn't there the problem arises.

2.  The dogs, will reliably find cadaver odour if it's there when the cadaver isn't there... It's, when it's not there the problem arises.

Neither solve the mystery of how does one work out when it is not there?

[Robittybob1]

you dont

How do you know when you've got a problem then.

[Mr Gray]

How do you know when you've got a problem then.

you dont...thats the whole point...uncertainty

[Mr Gray]

I think he means when the cadaver isn't there. Which is an odd assertion.

No... Cadaver odour..

[The General]

No... Cadaver odour..

But if a dude kills and dude, gets caught (by a police dude), admits it, shows (police dude) where he stored the dead dude and where the dead dude was subsequently found - and the dogs found the dead dude and where the dead dude was, isn't this your 'evidence'?

[Mr Gray]

But if a dude kills and dude, gets caught (by a police dude), admits it, shows (police dude) where he stored the dead dude and where the dead dude was subsequently found - and the dogs found the dead dude and where the dead dude was, isn't this your 'evidence'?

the point Im making is....the alerts in PDL...the alerts in Jersey...how do we know they were to cadaver odour...we dont

[The General]

the point Im making is....the alerts in PDL...the alerts in Jersey...how do we know they were to cadaver odour...we dont

Answer the question about the dudes.

[Mr Gray]

But if a dude kills and dude, gets caught (by a police dude), admits it, shows (police dude) where he stored the dead dude and where the dead dude was subsequently found - and the dogs found the dead dude and where the dead dude was, isn't this your 'evidence'?

the dogs found the evidence ,,tahts what they are good at...thats their purpose...

[The General]

the dogs found the evidence ,,tahts what they are good at...thats their purpose...

But the dogs found where the dead dude was stored, as the killer dude said they would.
So dogs found where dead dude was. Evidence. Proof of concept.