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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #75 on: July 08, 2019, 11:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 08, 2019, 10:59:45 PM
Everything you know about Madeleine you know from her parents, two people who you also appear to believe are liars and untrustworthy.  Ironic innit.

She had a star chart - she was rewarded when she managed to stay in bed all night.... Hardly what you'd expect for a good sleeper!
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #76 on: July 08, 2019, 11:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 08, 2019, 10:59:45 PM
Everything you know about Madeleine you know from her parents, two people who you also appear to believe are liars and untrustworthy.  Ironic innit.

 @)(++(*   So we all agree the children were light sleepers then- Good!

The parents said they went to Portugual on holiday- that is true
they said they ate food-  this is true
they said they played tennis- this is true


I'm sorry I  didn't get any irony. I think it woul be fair to say the parents version of accounts of that holiday are up for a challenge.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #77 on: July 08, 2019, 11:10:55 PM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 08, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
Madeleine had a star chart at home - she was given a star when she managed to stay in bed all night!
Let’s have the full cite for that shall we?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2019, 12:56:14 AM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 08, 2019, 11:10:55 PM
Let’s have the full cite for that shall we?

It was shown on the Oprah interview in May 2009... "Madeleine - Stars for Staying In Her [?Own] Bed"

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2019, 12:59:20 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 12:56:14 AM
It was shown on the Oprah interview in May 2009... "Madeleine - Stars for Staying In Her [?Own] Bed"


That is a lot of stars there.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2019, 01:01:28 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 09, 2019, 12:59:20 AM
That is a lot of stars there.

Depends on the reference period.... You know why she has this chart. We all do.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2019, 01:02:52 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 01:01:28 AM
Depends on the reference period.... You know why she has this chart. We all do.
Well why keep it a secret?  Tell me why she has this chart please?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2019, 01:04:14 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 09, 2019, 01:02:52 AM
Well why keep it a secret?

Was it a secret?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2019, 01:14:38 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 01:04:14 AM
Was it a secret?
Tell me why she has this chart please?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2019, 01:17:48 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 09, 2019, 01:14:38 AM
Tell me why she has this chart please?

It's positive parenting. Rewarding what you are trying to achieve. You know this.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2019, 01:31:35 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 01:17:48 AM
It's positive parenting. Rewarding what you are trying to achieve. You know this.
She had achieved it to some extent by the number of stars.  Maybe the new surroundings reversed the positive parenting progress.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2019, 01:56:17 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 09, 2019, 01:31:35 AM
She had achieved it to some extent by the number of stars.  Maybe the new surroundings reversed the positive parenting progress.

We don't know that - we do know she sometimes didn't stay in her own bed, though.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2019, 02:32:50 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 01:56:17 AM
We don't know that - we do know she sometimes didn't stay in her own bed, though.
we are talking about a person we barely know.  Will she sleep as well in a strange place? A place with people living next door. I'd hate to guess.  So I'm out.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2019, 07:38:38 AM »
Quote from: Billy Whizz Fan Club on July 09, 2019, 01:56:17 AM
We don't know that - we do know she sometimes didn't stay in her own bed, though.
And from this we can deduce what? 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: The Science Of Sleep - Does It Offer A Better Explanation Than Sedation?
« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2019, 07:48:10 AM »

What period of time does this Chart apply to?
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