Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.

[Mr Gray]

We've already been there, you say it only applies to the CSI dog.

According to grime

[Robittybob1]

According to grime

Make up your mind  -  do you agree with him or not?

[Mr Gray]

And would you be happy with that?  If a body was found in a skip bin and the dog alerted in the McCann's apartment that is evidence the death occurred in the apartment, or at least the cadaver had been in the apartment? 

I don't think you would personally.

If a body was found in a skip that the alerts do not prove maddie died in the apartment... That should be obvious to anyone

[Mr Gray]

Make up your mind  -  do you agree with him or not?

I'm quoting grime... And fwiw... It makes sense

[Robittybob1]

If a body was found in a skip that the alerts do not prove maddie died in the apartment... That should be obvious to anyone

Exactly so how was anyone going to satisfy Harrison's requirement for proof?

[Mr Gray]

Exactly so how was anyone going to satisfy Harrison's requirement for proof?

What did grime say

As no remains were found the only alerts that can become corroborated are the CSI

That means the cadaver alerts cannot be corroborated... It's perfectly clear. 

[Angelo222]

What did grime say

As no remains were found the only alerts that can become corroborated are the CSI

That means the cadaver alerts cannot be corroborated... It's perfectly clear.

Well we know that the alerts weren't corroborated unless one considers that the personal effects or even the ashes of the previous owner of 5a had lain in that apartment for some time thereby leaving a scent which Eddie recognised and so alerted to it.  By the way, did the PJ ever check any of this out?

[G-Unit]

What did grime say

As no remains were found the only alerts that can become corroborated are the CSI

That means the cadaver alerts cannot be corroborated... It's perfectly clear.

Aren't you forgetting his caveat? "In this case" I think he said

[Mr Gray]

Aren't you forgetting his caveat? "In this case" I think he said

Mark Harrison never made any such caveat. ..did grime intend one.. Why should the McCann case be any different

[G-Unit]

Mark Harrison never made any such caveat. ..did grime intend one.. Why should the McCann case be any different

I have no intention of combing their statements to see what they said. If you want to prove something provide yout cites. Let's just remember that Harrison and Grime were both search experts. They weren't detectives or prosecutors who are the experts when it comes to choosing and presenting evidence.

[Mr Gray]

I have no intention of combing their statements to see what they said. If you want to prove something provide yout cites. Let's just remember that Harrison and Grime were both search experts. They weren't detectives or prosecutors who are the experts when it comes to choosing and presenting evidence.

I've provided cites today. Grime said ni evidential reliability... Are you saying a prosecutor can overide that

[Robittybob1]

I've provided cites today. Grime said ni evidential reliability... Are you saying a prosecutor can overide that

If they want to.

[Mr Gray]

If they want to.

They theoretically can but wouldnt it be rather stupid..

Grime called as an expert witness would have to state the alerts have no evidential reliability... If the jury had heard the evidence that could result in a mistrial... The alerts have to have the support of an expert witness

[Robittybob1]

They theoretically can but wouldnt it be rather stupid..

Grime called as an expert witness would have to state the alerts have no evidential reliability... If the jury had heard the evidence that could result in a mistrial... The alerts have to have the support of an expert witness

[Gosh remember we battled over expert witnesses once before.]

What I had been wondering about is this: does Grime get called as an "expert witness" if he was involved in the actual investigation?

[Angelo222]

[Gosh remember we battled over expert witnesses once before.]

What I had been wondering about is this: does Grime get called as an "expert witness" if he was involved in the actual investigation?

He said as much when he was asked to reply to several questions put forward by forum members.  He said that he couldn't reply because it was a live enquiry and that answering questions in the public domain might jeopardize any subsequent trial.