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Offline Holly Goodhead

Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« on: July 06, 2019, 02:22:17 PM »
As usual I'm sure this has been covered previously but often useful to review.  I think the report contains some interesting points from a police officer with 30 years experience who is able and willing to share his views: 

https://www.bgpglobalservices.com/happened-madeleine-mccann-2/
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2019, 05:09:30 PM »
I see that Ian Horrocks is a consultant at BGP

Do we know who commissioned this report or was it just done out of the goodness of their hearts?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2019, 06:21:53 PM »
These experts are quite worrying in my opinion. How can a police officer with 30 years experience not examine the timeline?

"Anyone observing their routine would have known that they had at least 20 minutes between each check." he says.
Wrong!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2019, 06:24:33 PM »
These experts are quite worrying in my opinion. How can a police officer with 30 years experience not examine the timeline?

"Anyone observing their routine would have known that they had at least 20 minutes between each check." he says.
Wrong!
He’s not wrong, there were at least 20 minutes during which the children were left unattended.  If you want to make out that there was almost always a member of the group i. close proximity to the children throughout the evening you will need to bin the “neglectful parents” angle.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 06:29:23 PM »
He’s not wrong, there were at least 20 minutes during which the children were left unattended.  If you want to make out that there was almost always a member of the group i. close proximity to the children throughout the evening you will need to bin the “neglectful parents” angle.

Not between Gerry and Matt’s alleged first check.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2019, 06:32:11 PM »
I see that Ian Horrocks is a consultant at BGP

Do we know who commissioned this report or was it just done out of the goodness of their hearts?

I think it was produced when he was employed by the MET?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 06:34:38 PM »
Not between Gerry and Matt’s alleged first check.
Which never happened according to you.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2019, 06:59:16 PM »
These experts are quite worrying in my opinion. How can a police officer with 30 years experience not examine the timeline?

"Anyone observing their routine would have known that they had at least 20 minutes between each check." he says.
Wrong!

Please explain why he is wrong?  If we accept your timeline here:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10830.msg539314#msg539314

it pertains to the Thu eve only.  For all we know any perp may have observed a pattern over Sun - Wed incl and decided to execute on the Thu eve.  He/she then struck lucky operating between the small windows of opportunity.

Hows about a timeline for Sun - Wed pleeeeeeze  8)--))
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2019, 07:01:38 PM »
Which never happened according to you.

But it’s part of the narrative...the narrative that Horrocks seems to be having trouble with.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2019, 07:03:40 PM »
Interesting he thinks MM might still be alive, although he acknowledges he's in the minority in this regard.

Does anyone here think MM might still be alive?  If so on what basis?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2019, 07:09:30 PM »
I think it was produced when he was employed by the MET?


It would seem not . Further investigation shows -

"Ian Horrocks, a former chief inspector of the Met, was sent to PDL in Summer 2012 by The Sun in an attempt to discover what happened to Madeleine McCann. He produced a report, dated July 02 2012, which inspired various articles in the UK media."

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Ian_Horrocks.htm
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Offline jassi

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2019, 07:27:58 PM »
While searching for info on Horrocks I came across this =

http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Dodgy_Detectives.html  -  scroll down for article.

Makes for interesting reading when taken in conjunction with Horrock's piece

2 sides of the coin.one might say
« Last Edit: July 06, 2019, 07:38:08 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2019, 07:53:10 PM »
He’s not wrong, there were at least 20 minutes during which the children were left unattended.  If you want to make out that there was almost always a member of the group i. close proximity to the children throughout the evening you will need to bin the “neglectful parents” angle.

You've changed your tune. You couldn't fnd 20 minutes between checks in the group's timelime.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2019, 08:07:56 PM »
Interesting he thinks MM might still be alive, although he acknowledges he's in the minority in this regard.

Does anyone here think MM might still be alive?  If so on what basis?

His report more or less mirrors what I believe happened.  In which case Madeleine is living within a family, although probably the only child.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2019, 08:22:20 PM »
Please explain why he is wrong?  If we accept your timeline here:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10830.msg539314#msg539314

it pertains to the Thu eve only.  For all we know any perp may have observed a pattern over Sun - Wed incl and decided to execute on the Thu eve.  He/she then struck lucky operating between the small windows of opportunity.

Hows about a timeline for Sun - Wed pleeeeeeze  8)--))

I haven't got a timeline from Sun-Wed, but neither has anyone else. Therefore whatever you (or Horrocks) think the timelines were on those evenings has no evidence to support it.
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