Report By Former Police Officer - Ian Horrocks - May 2017

[Eleanor]

Couldn't give an indication with a cite to show where they are searching for a live Madeleine could you  please.

Please don't be silly.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Couldn't give an indication with a cite to show where they are searching for a live Madeleine could you  please.

No I couldn’t so for that reason you think the Met are certain she’s dead?  Wow, interesting logic.

[faithlilly]

No I couldn’t so for that reason you think the Met are certain she’s dead?  Wow, interesting logic.

They haven’t made an appeal in six years, haven’t issued an age progressed image in six years and there isn’t anything now on their website connected to the case. What do you take from that ?

[barrier]

No I couldn’t so for that reason you think the Met are certain she’s dead?  Wow, interesting logic.

What possible motive other than death would you conclude from the digs,the MET are currently digging around looking for Suzi lamplugh, second time in 6 months,is it to rule death out in your logical way of thinking.

[sadie]

Interesting he thinks MM might still be alive, although he acknowledges he's in the minority in this regard.

Does anyone here think MM might still be alive?  If so on what basis?

Yep.  I feel pretty sure about it.

SY have the evidence.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What possible motive other than death would you conclude from the digs,the MET are currently digging around looking for Suzi lamplugh, second time in 6 months,is it to rule death out in your logical way of thinking.

Death is a possibility, even a likelihood, it doesn’t mean Met are certain she is dead, unless someone has confessed to killing her and they have found supporting evidence of this, how could they be certain?  Do you think the police never bothered looking for bodies in other missing children cases where the child was discovered alive afterwards? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

They haven’t made an appeal in six years, haven’t issued an age progressed image in six years and there isn’t anything now on their website connected to the case. What do you take from that ?

I don’t take anything from it.  It doesn’t prove they are certain she is dead.  Certain implies proof.  Have they got that do you think? 

[Robittybob1]

That's not what he says.

Why I said that is he didn't need to go and open the gate he could have just climbed over the fence,  Something no one could possibly see along the alleyway.

G-unit: "I notice he doesn't specify a time for the 'abductor' nipping out of the alley and into the gate."
Rob "Just climb over the low garden fence."
G-unit "That's not what he says."
Rob:  "Why I said that is he didn't need to go and open the gate he could have just climbed over the fence,  Something no one could possibly see along the alleyway."

[faithlilly]

I don’t take anything from it.  It doesn’t prove they are certain she is dead.  Certain implies proof.  Have they got that do you think?

Pretty close to it I’d guess.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Pretty close to it I’d guess.

Guesses are no good I’m afraid. 

[faithlilly]

Guesses are no good I’m afraid.

It’s a turn of phrase.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It’s a turn of phrase.

Yes, and it demonstrates that you really don’t have a clue.

[faithlilly]

Yes, and it demonstrates that you really don’t have a clue.

I’m not sure why you are debating this one as you’ve admitted that she’s most probably dead too.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m not sure why you are debating this one as you’ve admitted that she’s most probably dead too.

My beliefs have no bearing on whether or not she is dead.  I think it’s likely but I’m not certain as there is no evidence that she is.  Apparently the police are certain simply because they dug up PdL.  I dispute that.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Guesses are no good I’m afraid.

They are good enough for OG if they have procured cadaver dogs and are digging for... seashells? dead seashell?