Global warming

[Miss Taken Identity]

your post is just a load of waffle...do you raed the links you provide...you psoted this..


http://temperature.global/?fbclid=IwAR3KLUG7yWknMsg8pKs5eaMW2bl2NRq5opBcKFDifjEGVTORy1umB_OWuhk

There are many different scientist @ NASA. It isn't difficult to find conflicting 'theories'

"  Nevertheless, it is clear that solar variability seems much more likely to have driven the large regional climate changes seen in historical data. This provides both a useful test of the ability of climate models to simulate patterns of regional changes and important evidence for the importance of solar variability in climate change."

did you read it properly...it says climate change seems to hve been driven by soalr change in HIS
http://temperature.global/?fbclid=IwAR3KLUG7yWknMsg8pKs5eaMW2bl2NRq5opBcKFDifjEGVTORy1umB_OWuhk

There are many different scientist @ NASA. It isn't difficult to find conflicting 'theories'

"  Nevertheless, it is clear that solar variability seems much more likely to have driven the large regional climate changes seen in historical data. This provides both a useful test of the ability of climate models to simulate patterns of regional changes and important evidence for the importance of solar variability in climate change."

did you read it...it says climate change appears to be driven by solar activity in HISTORICAL data...thats an accepted fact...but what is also an accepted fact that climate change NOW is being driven by MAN

Of course I read it- the only waffle here is your banal diatribe.


You obviously mis read about the regional warming due to undersea volcanoes, and shifting plates. There is also gas under the sea which can cause small explosions when volcanoes erupt- these are things we cannot see happening  with the bare eye.

There is evidence that the sun has been warming the planet for many millennium-no evidence of this due to man. Only theory- aka guess work.

" but what is also an accepted fact that climate change NOW is being driven by MAN" <  an add on sentence only accepted by those who believe the theory. I use the word believe as there is NO evidence at all.  Some people believe in Gods- that is a theory not a fact but many people claim it as a fact.

[Mr Gray]

Of course I read it- the only waffle here is your banal diatribe.


You obviously mis read about the regional warming due to undersea volcanoes, and shifting plates. There is also gas under the sea which can cause small explosions when volcanoes erupt- these are things we cannot see happening  with the bare eye.

There is evidence that the sun has been warming the planet for many millennium-no evidence of this due to man. Only theory- aka guess work.

" but what is also an accepted fact that climate change NOW is being driven by MAN" <  an add on sentence only accepted by those who believe the theory. I use the word believe as there is NO evidence at all.  Some people believe in Gods- that is a theory not a fact but many people claim it as a fact.

volcanos can actually cool the earth...I agree the sun has been warming the planet...thats called stating the obvious...theories supported by evidence are not guesswork.....any claim that you have a scientific background looks ridiculous.

all you are doing is showing just how bankrupt the climate deniers argumnet is.

[Miss Taken Identity]

volcanos can actually cool the earth...I agree the sun has been warming the planet...thats called stating the obvious...theories supported by evidence are not guesswork.....any claim that you have a scientific background looks ridiculous.

all you are doing is showing just how bankrupt the climate deniers argumnet is.

OH looks like you lost that argument BIG TIME! MR google scientist you


The planets weather is not caused by  'man' ...can't stop laughing here.

[Mr Gray]

OH looks like you lost that argument BIG TIME! MR google scientist you


The planets weather is not caused by  'man' ...can't stop laughing here.

its not my argument...and its not Gretas argument...thats another thing you dont understand.,,

and like anyone with any education...scientific in my case....I use google....do you still pop down to the library LOL

[Miss Taken Identity]

its not my argument...and its not Gretas argument...thats another thing you dont understand.,,

and like anyone with any education...scientific in my case....I use google....do you still pop down to the library LOL

Oh I understand your gobble de gook-  you and Greta and the hoards believe the scientists. I have no issue with that at all. I just want to see the data-evidence. thanks.
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and like anyone with any education...scientific in my case.."


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"do you still pop down to the library LOL "

Yes, Edinburgh university library- full of books and journals- I though all scientist did.  You being the exception of course with your googling. I thought you were quite old, google is relatively new. born again scientist perhaps? 

[Mr Gray]

Oh I understand your gobble de gook-  you and Greta and the hoards believe the scientists. I have no issue with that at all. I just want to see the data-evidence. thanks.
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and like anyone with any education...scientific in my case.."


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"do you still pop down to the library LOL "

Yes, Edinburgh university library- full of books and journals- I though all scientist did.  You being the exception of course with your googling. I thought you were quite old, google is relatively new. born again scientist perhaps?

Do you not realise pretty well all these journals are available online.

If i wanted to look at Grimes White paper on cadaver dogs i would use google to find it...download it to my phone and read it over breakfast. You it seems would trot down to the library...who wouldnt have a copy....but the friendly assistant might google it for you ...print it out ...and have a little snigger that you hadnt got the sense to do this yourself at home. Ill stick with google. its  a search engine and you dont learn anything from it but it finds the information you want. Ive been using it for about 20 years so its not that new.

[Mr Gray]

Oh I understand your gobble de gook-  you and Greta and the hoards believe the scientists. I have no issue with that at all. I just want to see the data-evidence. thanks.
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and like anyone with any education...scientific in my case.."


 ?{)(**OK...

"do you still pop down to the library LOL "

Yes, Edinburgh university library- full of books and journals- I though all scientist did.  You being the exception of course with your googling. I thought you were quite old, google is relatively new. born again scientist perhaps?

evidence for man made climate change.
data over the last 800,000 yeras shows CO2 at highest level...around 30% more than the higest level recorded in the last 800,000 years.

CO2 is  agreenhouse gas and causes global warming

Man is responsible for the increased output


thats quite a simple explanation ... it isnt 100% proof but the consensus is overwhelming . One reason all scientists dont agree is because some are employed by the oil and coal industries.

Its like the evidence for smoking...there was enough after the 20 years to show the link but some wouldnt accept it. It took 50 yaers to prove it. we probably will be able to prove 100% climate change is man made in 10 years...but by then too much damage will have been done. Theres  a lot of CO2 in the sea and as temp rises more will come out and warming will further accelerate

[Vertigo Swirl]

Davel, one thing I’ve learned over the years is to never get into an argument with a manmade climate change denier, they are not dissimilar to Young Earthers in their ability to completely ignore the 99% of scientific consensus in favour of the 1%.  I guess it makes them feel maverick and special, they can “think outside the box” you see, and anyway who needs experts and research, that’s all been funded by the High Ups to force us to endure wind turbines and pay over the odds for our energy blah blah blah.  Oh and bloody Greta Thunberg!  Rant rant rant.

I used to have heated debates with my parents about it 20 years ago and then decided it simply wasn’t worth the bother.  Strangely though they have both quietly come round to the view that humanity is largely responsible for climate change.  In time and with growing maturity I’m sure others like Miss Taken will too.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Do you not realise pretty well all these journals are available online.

If i wanted to look at Grimes White paper on cadaver dogs i would use google to find it...download it to my phone and read it over breakfast. You it seems would trot down to the library...who wouldnt have a copy....but the friendly assistant might google it for you ...print it out ...and have a little snigger that you hadnt got the sense to do this yourself at home. Ill stick with google. its  a search engine and you dont learn anything from it but it finds the information you want. Ive been using it for about 20 years so its not that new.

Do you not realise pretty well all these journals are available online.

Now who is stating the obvious

“If i wanted to look at Grimes White paper on cadaver dogs i would use google to find it...download it to my phone and read it over breakfast. “

AND?

"You it seems would trot down to the library...who wouldnt have a copy....but the friendly assistant might google it for you ...print it out ...and have a little snigger that you hadnt got the sense to do this yourself at home."

Oh how you wish that were true!  I am even smarter than that, I check the library data base and order my book copy/journal -if they don’t have it they acquire it. Then meet my friends in the library café.

“ Ill stick with google. its  a search engine and you dont learn anything from it but it finds the information you want.”

Did it find you someone who would do your scientific paper at your degree level?

 Ive been using it for about 20 years so its not that new.

Yes…. I know you must have been.


"evidence for man made climate change.
data over the last 800,000 yeras shows CO2 at highest level...around 30% more than the higest level recorded in the last 800,000 years."

   who was around 800,0000 years collating co2 data?

"CO2 is  agreenhouse gas and causes global warming"   says who  you and googleman?

"Man is responsible for the increased output"- evidence please name names and their scientific designation.


“thats quite a simple explanation ...” =Davels drivel

" it isnt 100% proof but the consensus is overwhelming" .

There you have it NO PROOF!

It may be overwhelming you and Greta, (who stopped going to school! )Not to those who actually work in teams to study the planet and made it their life’s work.

“One reason all scientists dont agree is because some are employed by the oil and coal industries.,”

 and where does oil and coal come from Davel?
Subtle hint= planet earth!

 There are people like me who are very environmentally savvy, we are aware of the ocean’s robustness and its vulnerability.  Under the sea volcanoes can cause the ice in both poles to melt slightly- but within years with no more eruptions it can heal itself. As all plant life and forms do.


“Its like the evidence for smoking...there was enough after the 20 years to show the link but some wouldnt accept it. It took 50 yaers to prove it. “

The evidence was again ignorant of facts.  And scare mongering.

I am a non-smoker and hate it. However, the evidence gathered did not factor in the general health of the nation and the workforce conditions; for example, lung cancer came under one big umbrella. Where as there are many cause of lung cancer and smoking is just one which can exasperate lung tissue which has been affected by coal fires, wood burners etc which can cause asthma .

If it did cause lung cancer all smokers would die from that disease- many didn’t and smoked for very long periods of time.
“we probably will be able to prove 100% climate change is man made in 10 years...”

probably= google science facts

“but by then too much damage will have been done.”

How much damage ? can you elucidate=  earth dies, billions people die..

“ Theres  a lot of CO2 in the sea and as temp rises more will come out and warming will further accelerate”

Yes co2 Is in the sea- I told you that, I also said the planet needs Co2 to survive. We all came from the sea -when it melted due to the sun life form began.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Davel, one thing I’ve learned over the years is to never get into an argument with a manmade climate change denier, they are not dissimilar to Young Earthers in their ability to completely ignore the 99% of scientific consensus in favour of the 1%.  I guess it makes them feel maverick and special, they can “think outside the box” you see, and anyway who needs experts and research, that’s all been funded by the High Ups to force us to endure wind turbines and pay over the odds for our energy blah blah blah.  Oh and bloody Greta Thunberg!  Rant rant rant.

I used to have heated debates with my parents about it 20 years ago and then decided it simply wasn’t worth the bother.  Strangely though they have both quietly come round to the view that humanity is largely responsible for climate change.  In time and with growing maturity I’m sure others like Miss Taken will too.

The point is there is NO argument because there is NO proof of these claims, NONE.

[John]

Davel, one thing I’ve learned over the years is to never get into an argument with a manmade climate change denier, they are not dissimilar to Young Earthers in their ability to completely ignore the 99% of scientific consensus in favour of the 1%.  I guess it makes them feel maverick and special, they can “think outside the box” you see, and anyway who needs experts and research, that’s all been funded by the High Ups to force us to endure wind turbines and pay over the odds for our energy blah blah blah.  Oh and bloody Greta Thunberg!  Rant rant rant.

I used to have heated debates with my parents about it 20 years ago and then decided it simply wasn’t worth the bother.  Strangely though they have both quietly come round to the view that humanity is largely responsible for climate change.  In time and with growing maturity I’m sure others like Miss Taken will too.

Humanity will disappear in time just like every other animal. Humans might have developed brains but their comprehension of their fragile environment is tempered by greed. Covid-19 has shown what nature can do, in the end the viruses will win imo.

[Mr Gray]

Do you not realise pretty well all these journals are available online.

Now who is stating the obvious

“If i wanted to look at Grimes White paper on cadaver dogs i would use google to find it...download it to my phone and read it over breakfast. “

AND?

"You it seems would trot down to the library...who wouldnt have a copy....but the friendly assistant might google it for you ...print it out ...and have a little snigger that you hadnt got the sense to do this yourself at home."

Oh how you wish that were true!  I am even smarter than that, I check the library data base and order my book copy/journal -if they don’t have it they acquire it. Then meet my friends in the library café.

“ Ill stick with google. its  a search engine and you dont learn anything from it but it finds the information you want.”

Did it find you someone who would do your scientific paper at your degree level?

 Ive been using it for about 20 years so its not that new.

Yes…. I know you must have been.


"evidence for man made climate change.
data over the last 800,000 yeras shows CO2 at highest level...around 30% more than the higest level recorded in the last 800,000 years."

   who was around 800,0000 years collating co2 data?

"CO2 is  agreenhouse gas and causes global warming"   says who  you and googleman?

"Man is responsible for the increased output"- evidence please name names and their scientific designation.


“thats quite a simple explanation ...” =Davels drivel

" it isnt 100% proof but the consensus is overwhelming" .

There you have it NO PROOF!

It may be overwhelming you and Greta, (who stopped going to school! )Not to those who actually work in teams to study the planet and made it their life’s work.

“One reason all scientists dont agree is because some are employed by the oil and coal industries.,”

 and where does oil and coal come from Davel?
Subtle hint= planet earth!

 There are people like me who are very environmentally savvy, we are aware of the ocean’s robustness and its vulnerability.  Under the sea volcanoes can cause the ice in both poles to melt slightly- but within years with no more eruptions it can heal itself. As all plant life and forms do.


“Its like the evidence for smoking...there was enough after the 20 years to show the link but some wouldnt accept it. It took 50 yaers to prove it. “

The evidence was again ignorant of facts.  And scare mongering.

I am a non-smoker and hate it. However, the evidence gathered did not factor in the general health of the nation and the workforce conditions; for example, lung cancer came under one big umbrella. Where as there are many cause of lung cancer and smoking is just one which can exasperate lung tissue which has been affected by coal fires, wood burners etc which can cause asthma .

If it did cause lung cancer all smokers would die from that disease- many didn’t and smoked for very long periods of time.
“we probably will be able to prove 100% climate change is man made in 10 years...”

probably= google science facts

“but by then too much damage will have been done.”

How much damage ? can you elucidate=  earth dies, billions people die..

“ Theres  a lot of CO2 in the sea and as temp rises more will come out and warming will further accelerate”

Yes co2 Is in the sea- I told you that, I also said the planet needs Co2 to survive. We all came from the sea -when it melted due to the sun life form began.

Your ignorance is astonishing...
do you not understand how we can track CO2 levels over the past 800,000 years...its a fact that we can..

its typical of deniers such as yourself taht you are ignorant of the facts

[Mr Gray]

The point is there is NO argument because there is NO proof of these claims, NONE.

no proof yet...just overwhelming evidence

[Mr Gray]

Do you not realise pretty well all these journals are available online.

Now who is stating the obvious

“If i wanted to look at Grimes White paper on cadaver dogs i would use google to find it...download it to my phone and read it over breakfast. “

AND?

"You it seems would trot down to the library...who wouldnt have a copy....but the friendly assistant might google it for you ...print it out ...and have a little snigger that you hadnt got the sense to do this yourself at home."

Oh how you wish that were true!  I am even smarter than that, I check the library data base and order my book copy/journal -if they don’t have it they acquire it. Then meet my friends in the library café.

“ Ill stick with google. its  a search engine and you dont learn anything from it but it finds the information you want.”

Did it find you someone who would do your scientific paper at your degree level?

 Ive been using it for about 20 years so its not that new.

Yes…. I know you must have been.


"evidence for man made climate change.
data over the last 800,000 yeras shows CO2 at highest level...around 30% more than the higest level recorded in the last 800,000 years."

   who was around 800,0000 years collating co2 data?

"CO2 is  agreenhouse gas and causes global warming"   says who  you and googleman?

"Man is responsible for the increased output"- evidence please name names and their scientific designation.


“thats quite a simple explanation ...” =Davels drivel

" it isnt 100% proof but the consensus is overwhelming" .

There you have it NO PROOF!

It may be overwhelming you and Greta, (who stopped going to school! )Not to those who actually work in teams to study the planet and made it their life’s work.

“One reason all scientists dont agree is because some are employed by the oil and coal industries.,”

 and where does oil and coal come from Davel?
Subtle hint= planet earth!

 There are people like me who are very environmentally savvy, we are aware of the ocean’s robustness and its vulnerability.  Under the sea volcanoes can cause the ice in both poles to melt slightly- but within years with no more eruptions it can heal itself. As all plant life and forms do.


“Its like the evidence for smoking...there was enough after the 20 years to show the link but some wouldnt accept it. It took 50 yaers to prove it. “

The evidence was again ignorant of facts.  And scare mongering.

I am a non-smoker and hate it. However, the evidence gathered did not factor in the general health of the nation and the workforce conditions; for example, lung cancer came under one big umbrella. Where as there are many cause of lung cancer and smoking is just one which can exasperate lung tissue which has been affected by coal fires, wood burners etc which can cause asthma .

If it did cause lung cancer all smokers would die from that disease- many didn’t and smoked for very long periods of time.
“we probably will be able to prove 100% climate change is man made in 10 years...”

probably= google science facts

“but by then too much damage will have been done.”

How much damage ? can you elucidate=  earth dies, billions people die..

“ Theres  a lot of CO2 in the sea and as temp rises more will come out and warming will further accelerate”

Yes co2 Is in the sea- I told you that, I also said the planet needs Co2 to survive. We all came from the sea -when it melted due to the sun life form began.

there is proof...scientific proof that smoking causes lung cancer...again your ignorance is astonishing...you dont appear to undestand scientific principles at all

[Vertigo Swirl]

Humanity will disappear in time just like every other animal. Humans might have developed brains but their comprehension of their fragile environment is tempered by greed. Covid-19 has shown what nature can do, in the end the viruses will win imo.

Happy Easter!