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Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #510 on: December 12, 2019, 07:44:37 PM »
I don't really know why I'm bothering to do this but jassi posted it as fact...does it matter..no...am i really bothered ..no. Perhaps i should just like jassi's post and be done with it
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #511 on: December 12, 2019, 08:24:28 PM »
Don't warn us, do it.

Already have done... Liked all yours too

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #512 on: December 13, 2019, 07:51:03 AM »
Already have done... Liked all yours too
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Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #513 on: December 13, 2019, 08:38:40 AM »
Look at what they make you give.

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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #514 on: December 13, 2019, 09:19:29 AM »
Gonçalo Amaral in El Mundo: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine corpse in the Beach

Snip

Q – It was said that Kate was very cold. But I've seen her cry.

A - So did I. She is not cold. There was a moment, in a meeting with them, when we set out the sofa theory. Kate puts her head down, looking distant, and, after a few seconds, she looked up again as if nothing had happened. She looked like she was escaping from the role that she was interpreting.

Q - When you raised the hypothesis that the girl might have died after falling off the sofa, did Kate McCann answer?

A - She did not answer, she just dropped her head for a moment, as if she was about to faint. She had an emotional collapse that lasted just a moment.

Q - And Gerry McCann?

A – He is a very strong person, dominant. He's a surgeon, a man capable of making decisions very quickly. That was good for him to be able to decide over Madeleine. If you have to hide the body, you must decide quickly. And it could only be hidden on the beach, and you have to take her on foot. This is where the statements from the Irish witness is important, the one that no one has taken into account.

Q - What is your opinion?

A - To me, Gerry hid Madeleine's body on the beach. And after a few days he moved her with his car. We work following this lead. Trying to find out the date of the switch, some details, but we were on the way. The Irish was about to arrive in Portugal, but everything was delayed too much, he even received external pressures. In the end, he didn't testify for the Police.

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I think it is important to measure the quality and the failure of Amaral's theories. Not only did they shape the conduct of the Amarel led investigation into Kate and Gerry McCann when the Policia Judiciaria wrote Madeleine off as dead, Amaral's theories although largely based on false premises are still believed by a few.

Amaral really is a bare faced and consummate liar and this El Mundo interview is peppered with them.

He never met Kate McCann.

Gerry McCann didn't have a car at the time Amaral suggests and even if he had ... how did he manage under the glare of publicity to go to the beach ... dig up a body ... transfer it to the car boot Keela inspected ... and into oblivion.
All under the watchful eye of the Judicial police ???

The Irish witness did testify for the police in May 2007 ... the problem Amaral has there is that the police totally ignored his testimony for months until Kate and Gerry were arguidos when he changed it.


All in all this theory did not stand up to proper scrutiny so was a pretty rubbish one built on lies.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #515 on: December 13, 2019, 09:32:26 AM »
Gonçalo Amaral in El Mundo: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine corpse in the Beach

Snip

Q – It was said that Kate was very cold. But I've seen her cry.

A - So did I. She is not cold. There was a moment, in a meeting with them, when we set out the sofa theory. Kate puts her head down, looking distant, and, after a few seconds, she looked up again as if nothing had happened. She looked like she was escaping from the role that she was interpreting.

Q - When you raised the hypothesis that the girl might have died after falling off the sofa, did Kate McCann answer?

A - She did not answer, she just dropped her head for a moment, as if she was about to faint. She had an emotional collapse that lasted just a moment.

Q - And Gerry McCann?

A – He is a very strong person, dominant. He's a surgeon, a man capable of making decisions very quickly. That was good for him to be able to decide over Madeleine. If you have to hide the body, you must decide quickly. And it could only be hidden on the beach, and you have to take her on foot. This is where the statements from the Irish witness is important, the one that no one has taken into account.

Q - What is your opinion?

A - To me, Gerry hid Madeleine's body on the beach. And after a few days he moved her with his car. We work following this lead. Trying to find out the date of the switch, some details, but we were on the way. The Irish was about to arrive in Portugal, but everything was delayed too much, he even received external pressures. In the end, he didn't testify for the Police.

__________________________________________________________________



I think it is important to measure the quality and the failure of Amaral's theories. Not only did they shape the conduct of the Amarel led investigation into Kate and Gerry McCann when the Policia Judiciaria wrote Madeleine off as dead, Amaral's theories although largely based on false premises are still believed by a few.

Amaral really is a bare faced and consummate liar and this El Mundo interview is peppered with them.

He never met Kate McCann.

Gerry McCann didn't have a car at the time Amaral suggests and even if he had ... how did he manage under the glare of publicity to go to the beach ... dig up a body ... transfer it to the car boot Keela inspected ... and into oblivion.
All under the watchful eye of the Judicial police ???

The Irish witness did testify for the police in May 2007 ... the problem Amaral has there is that the police totally ignored his testimony for months until Kate and Gerry were arguidos when he changed it.


All in all this theory did not stand up to proper scrutiny so was a pretty rubbish one built on lies.

If 'Amaral's' theories are believed only by 'a few', why are you so obsessed with discrediting him?
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Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #516 on: December 13, 2019, 09:40:19 AM »
Idle hands are the devils workshop.
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Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #517 on: December 13, 2019, 09:41:18 AM »
If 'Amaral's' theories are believed only by 'a few', why are you so obsessed with discrediting him?

Thought I'd missed something and there's an alleged miscarriage of justice.
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Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #518 on: December 13, 2019, 09:41:29 AM »
If 'Amaral's' theories are believed only by 'a few', why are you so obsessed with discrediting him?


Because he's evil, evil I tell you.   @)(++(*

Not that it makes a jot of difference , but its a feel-good factor for certain supporters

IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #519 on: December 13, 2019, 10:06:09 AM »
If 'Amaral's' theories are believed only by 'a few', why are you so obsessed with discrediting him?

I am afraid you will have to be a bit more explicit in your accusation. 

Did Amaral give an interview to El Mundo ?

Have I quoted Amaral's own answers to the Journalist's questions ?

The answer to both those questions is "YES" is it not ?

That being the case please explain in words of one syllable in which way I am misrepresenting Amaral when I quote verbatim the innuendos and lies he and his following have been using for over twelve years for the sole purpose of misrepresenting and abusing Kate and Gerry McCann.

His theories are based on nothing except his own suspicions which have long since proven false ... I do understand your embarrassment when the reasons for Amaral's assumptions are shown by him in the light of day and all in his own words too.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #520 on: December 13, 2019, 10:18:51 AM »

Because he's evil, evil I tell you.   @)(++(*

Not that it makes a jot of difference , but its a feel-good factor for certain supporters

IMO
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #521 on: December 13, 2019, 10:24:54 AM »
I am afraid you will have to be a bit more explicit in your accusation. 

Did Amaral give an interview to El Mundo ?

Have I quoted Amaral's own answers to the Journalist's questions ?

The answer to both those questions is "YES" is it not ?

That being the case please explain in words of one syllable in which way I am misrepresenting Amaral when I quote verbatim the innuendos and lies he and his following have been using for over twelve years for the sole purpose of misrepresenting and abusing Kate and Gerry McCann.

His theories are based on nothing except his own suspicions which have long since proven false ... I do understand your embarrassment when the reasons for Amaral's assumptions are shown by him in the light of day and all in his own words too.

You didn't understand my point? If Amaral only influenced 'a few' people surely there's no need to keep moaning about him for twelve years? Perhaps you need to move on.
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Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #522 on: December 13, 2019, 10:55:25 AM »
You didn't understand my point? If Amaral only influenced 'a few' people surely there's no need to keep moaning about him for twelve years? Perhaps you need to move on.


Perhaps the authoress was of that ilk.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #523 on: December 13, 2019, 11:01:11 AM »
You didn't understand my point? If Amaral only influenced 'a few' people surely there's no need to keep moaning about him for twelve years? Perhaps you need to move on.

As the mccanns are not suspects in either investigation isn't it about time you and others moved on

Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #524 on: December 13, 2019, 11:04:42 AM »
When OG  identify and successfully prosecute the perp, we may be able to.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future