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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #855 on: December 20, 2019, 09:44:46 PM »
The post was explained to me- smutty minds to find innocent post with sexual connotations and attribute it to the author.

Lewd, and disgusting interpretation.In Many peoples opinion.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #856 on: December 20, 2019, 09:55:08 PM »
When someone wants to talk about their underwear....has a name of Holly Goodhead...ask someone what that means...and talks about slipping up back passsages...you'd have to be  bit thick not to realise it was intentional.

Its al Carry on up the Khyber Holly humour...

Just because I do not do innuendo does not make me thick. name calling is against forum rules so hopefully that post will be amended
.- I am not a lewd person and my family do not subscribe to smutty humour.   For the supporters to constantly claim they do not care- they certainly manage to read and rewrite posts to suit their own group. The group saw the smut and laughed. And these are the same poor wee souls who are offended at everything and anything for and on behalf of others.

 I now know why they are not offended by Kate discussing her child's private parts in explicit terms, or her sex life- says it all really. I now know who I  am dealing with.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #857 on: December 20, 2019, 09:57:28 PM »
Just because I do not do innuendo does not make me thick. name calling is against forum rules so hopefully that post will be amended
.- I am not a lewd person and my family do not subscribe to smutty humour.   For the supporters to constantly claim they do not care- they certainly manage to read and rewrite posts to suit their own group. The group saw the smut and laughed. And these are the same poor wee souls who are offended at everything and anything for and on behalf of others.

 I now know why they are not offended by Kate discussing her child's private parts in explicit terms, or her sex life- says it all really. I now know who I  am dealing with.

I'm not in the slightest offended by Hollys innuendo ...nor by Kates description in her book

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #858 on: December 20, 2019, 10:30:23 PM »
Just because I do not do innuendo does not make me thick. name calling is against forum rules so hopefully that post will be amended
.- I am not a lewd person and my family do not subscribe to smutty humour.   For the supporters to constantly claim they do not care- they certainly manage to read and rewrite posts to suit their own group. The group saw the smut and laughed. And these are the same poor wee souls who are offended at everything and anything for and on behalf of others.

 I now know why they are not offended by Kate discussing her child's private parts in explicit terms, or her sex life- says it all really. I now know who I  am dealing with.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #859 on: December 23, 2019, 02:33:28 PM »
Let's use this 'logic' then. So what is way more likely? That by leaving the door open she could literally just get up and go out. Did they 'consider' this? What did they 'consider'?



G would know the answer to this- the conversation from the rogs.

No one is allowed to consider anything that does not fit the narrative of the parents and supporters.

The door should never have been mentioned as this puts a hellish strain on the 'abducted via window' story.

Ahh the abducted by window story...


Walk and wandered is a real theory -but puts the parents in a bad light.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #860 on: December 23, 2019, 02:56:33 PM »


G would know the answer to this- the conversation from the rogs.

No one is allowed to consider anything that does not fit the narrative of the parents and supporters.

The door should never have been mentioned as this puts a hellish strain on the 'abducted via window' story.

Ahh the abducted by window story...


Walk and wandered is a real theory -but puts the parents in a bad light.

Kate's revelation about the unlocked patio doors wasn't mentioned until the rogatory interviews. Jane mentioned in her 10th May statement the conversation with Kate about Madeleine asking them where they were the night before, but she said nothing about the patio doors being left open. In fact when asked she denied any knowledge of the patio doors being left open. She said she'd suspected, that's all.

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Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #861 on: December 23, 2019, 05:55:21 PM »
‘That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open’. (Matthew Oldfield)

Has the Master bedroom’s window been forensically investigated? Carole Tranmer stated that she saw a man opening the small gate of the Oldfield’s apartment and closing it in a way not to attract attention. Has it been considered that a person would enter 5B’s small gate and climbed over the wall to access 5A, either through the patio doors or the Master bedroom window?

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #862 on: December 23, 2019, 08:58:39 PM »
‘That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open’. (Matthew Oldfield)

Has the Master bedroom’s window been forensically investigated? Carole Tranmer stated that she saw a man opening the small gate of the Oldfield’s apartment and closing it in a way not to attract attention. Has it been considered that a person would enter 5B’s small gate and climbed over the wall to access 5A, either through the patio doors or the Master bedroom window?
I wonder what that could have been, the thing outside the bedroom window that was emitting light?
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Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #863 on: December 23, 2019, 09:06:53 PM »
‘That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open’. (Matthew Oldfield)

Has the Master bedroom’s window been forensically investigated? Carole Tranmer stated that she saw a man opening the small gate of the Oldfield’s apartment and closing it in a way not to attract attention. Has it been considered that a person would enter 5B’s small gate and climbed over the wall to access 5A, either through the patio doors or the Master bedroom window?

The Master (parents) bedroom has a patio door covered by an external shutter. An intruder would not have chosen such a difficult means of entry when there were simpler alternatives. I don't discount the idea someone could have used 5B's garden as an initial hiding place before climbing over the wall.

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #864 on: December 23, 2019, 10:04:51 PM »
The Master (parents) bedroom has a patio door covered by an external shutter. An intruder would not have chosen such a difficult means of entry when there were simpler alternatives. I don't discount the idea someone could have used 5B's garden as an initial hiding place before climbing over the wall.


Why did he need to hide?  he was seen strutting around PDL in front of JT's very eyes,in front of Gerry  who had just left the apartment...
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #865 on: December 23, 2019, 10:08:07 PM »
Kate's revelation about the unlocked patio doors wasn't mentioned until the rogatory interviews. Jane mentioned in her 10th May statement the conversation with Kate about Madeleine asking them where they were the night before, but she said nothing about the patio doors being left open. In fact when asked she denied any knowledge of the patio doors being left open. She said she'd suspected, that's all.
What revelation are you referring to?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #866 on: December 23, 2019, 10:14:02 PM »
Kate's revelation about the unlocked patio doors wasn't mentioned until the rogatory interviews. Jane mentioned in her 10th May statement the conversation with Kate about Madeleine asking them where they were the night before, but she said nothing about the patio doors being left open. In fact when asked she denied any knowledge of the patio doors being left open. She said she'd suspected, that's all.
Kate said the patio doors were open in her 4th may statement


Around 9.30pm was the time the interviewee should have gone to see her children, but her friend Matt (a member of the group) had just done a check in his apartment then gone to the interviewee's. He had entered the apartment by a glass sliding side door, that was always unlocked and once inside had not gone into the children's bedroom. He only looked through the door, and did not hear any noise. He went back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine.

At around 10pm, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed but not locked, as
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #867 on: December 24, 2019, 12:52:02 AM »
‘That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the That the light was not from an artificial source inside the apartment, but perhaps something coming from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the Master' bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open’. (Matthew Oldfield)

Has the Master bedroom’s window been forensically investigated? Carole Tranmer stated that she saw a man opening the small gate of the Oldfield’s apartment and closing it in a way not to attract attention. Has it been considered that a person would enter 5B’s small gate and climbed over the wall to access 5A, either through the patio doors or the Master bedroom window?

That's how Madeleine exited the apartment in my theory via the parents bedroom door and if you read my theory you will know why. There's no way that door would be unlocked unless it was intentional.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #868 on: December 24, 2019, 07:14:40 AM »

I was speaking of the conversation at the table on 3rd May. Fiona reports that Kate mentioned leaving the doors unlocked, but Jane doesn't, although she discusses the conversation on 10th May in her PJ interview. 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #869 on: December 24, 2019, 07:26:10 AM »

Oh Dear.  What a pity. 08.30am on Christmas Eve, French time that is.

Roll on Christmas Day is all I can say.