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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #885 on: December 24, 2019, 10:04:54 PM »
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Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
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Offline sadie

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #887 on: December 27, 2019, 12:45:58 AM »
That's how Madeleine exited the apartment in my theory via the parents bedroom door and if you read my theory you will know why. There's no way that door would be unlocked unless it was intentional.

Have you considerd that the parents bedroom faced south so caught the sun during the day?
No air con was there?
Maybe they cracked their bedroom patio door open to make the bedroom cool enough for sleeping ?


After all, what purpose was there to lock it if the patio door in the next room (the sitting room) was unlocked ?
Unfortunately the bedroom patio door was pretty well hidden by a bush in the garden, and IMO would have been a more tempting way in because of this.


However, IMO, the most tempting way in was via the front door.  Several reasons have already been presnted on forum to suggest that the front door was the likely way in.  IMO

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #889 on: December 27, 2019, 02:06:34 PM »
Have you considerd that the parents bedroom faced south so caught the sun during the day?
No air con was there?
Maybe they cracked their bedroom patio door open to make the bedroom cool enough for sleeping ?


After all, what purpose was there to lock it if the patio door in the next room (the sitting room) was unlocked ?
Unfortunately the bedroom patio door was pretty well hidden by a bush in the garden, and IMO would have been a more tempting way in because of this.


However, IMO, the most tempting way in was via the front door.  Several reasons have already been presnted on forum to suggest that the front door was the likely way in.  IMO

You have a problem - a key was required to enter the front way. The unlocked patio side was the most probable entry and that side is where Eddie alerted. He was very interested in the area outside the parent's bedroom door and not interested in the main patio door. That is a clue along with his parent's bedroom alert and it was not missed by me!

Another clue!
Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #890 on: December 28, 2019, 12:53:01 AM »
You have a problem - a key was required to enter the front way. The unlocked patio side was the most probable entry and that side is where Eddie alerted. He was very interested in the area outside the parent's bedroom door and not interested in the main patio door. That is a clue along with his parent's bedroom alert and it was not missed by me!

Another clue!
Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

CSI didn't do any forensics in the parents' bedroom. I think what you have emboldened relates to the two doors which make up the entrance-way to the lounge.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #891 on: December 28, 2019, 09:18:46 PM »
A hair band was also found. Evidence is mounting up at that location.

An undated and unsigned hand-written note, very difficult to read but appearing to be written by a police officer from Aljezur, stating that on 4 (or 9) May around 06:00am (s)he found an 'elastica para o cabelo' (hair elastic?), abandoned/lost on the floor of (what could be) the back of the parents' bedroom.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SUNDRYS.htm

Rachel claimed Matt looked into the parent's bedroom on his check. He needs to be questioned further on what he observed and that patio door.

"poked his head, well you know kind of looked into Gerry and Kates room".
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

The curtains were not fully closed in crime scene photos and you could go through the door in the gap







« Last Edit: December 28, 2019, 09:23:19 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #892 on: December 29, 2019, 03:23:57 PM »
I've been waiting for a friend of mine whose someone of an 'expert' in an area I consider relevant to my suspect/theory and as I thought its looking very interesting indeed and there's still more to do!

 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #893 on: December 29, 2019, 03:32:01 PM »
I've been waiting for a friend of mine whose someone of an 'expert' in an area I consider relevant to my suspect/theory and as I thought its looking very interesting indeed and there's still more to do!
Ooh, how tantalising.  I doubt any of us will be any the wiser about this amazing revelation by this time next year.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #894 on: December 29, 2019, 03:54:57 PM »
I've been waiting for a friend of mine whose someone of an 'expert' in an area I consider relevant to my suspect/theory and as I thought its looking very interesting indeed and there's still more to do!
Sounds promising.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline alphonse

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #895 on: December 29, 2019, 04:07:07 PM »
Hi Pathfinder. What do you mean when you say you could go through the door in the gap?  Do you think the patio door shutters were not down then?  I wonder what the line of sight was like to there from the Tapas?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #896 on: December 29, 2019, 10:18:14 PM »
You would think the curtains would be fully closed at night unless you wanted access to that door. Just my observation on crime scene photos like the crumpled curtain behind the sofa where both dogs later alerted.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #897 on: December 30, 2019, 12:10:45 AM »
You would think the curtains would be fully closed at night unless you wanted access to that door. Just my observation on crime scene photos like the crumpled curtain behind the sofa where both dogs later alerted.

You might think so.
Other people who might be capable of appreciating the desperate search for a missing child might think disturbing curtains to look behind them on the chance she might be there seems a perfectly normal and appropriate thing to do.

At the time it obviously wasn't considered important enough for the Judicial Police to carry out forensic checks anywhere in the room let alone the windows and the curtains.
The Judicial Police were there at the time with total control of the investigation ... why was it do you think that they didn't attach the same significance that you and I would imagine any properly trained investigator whould do to all areas of the crime scene?

After all they were the guys taking the crime scene photographs on which you set such store and the other forensic evidence yet they managed to miss the staining on the wall behind the couch which I think might have been tested later and found to be snot or some such thing.
Not forgetting their sloppiness in not bothering to look inside any bags seen lying around on their watch.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #898 on: December 30, 2019, 09:55:03 AM »
You might think so.
Other people who might be capable of appreciating the desperate search for a missing child might think disturbing curtains to look behind them on the chance she might be there seems a perfectly normal and appropriate thing to do.

At the time it obviously wasn't considered important enough for the Judicial Police to carry out forensic checks anywhere in the room let alone the windows and the curtains.
The Judicial Police were there at the time with total control of the investigation ... why was it do you think that they didn't attach the same significance that you and I would imagine any properly trained investigator whould do to all areas of the crime scene?

After all they were the guys taking the crime scene photographs on which you set such store and the other forensic evidence yet they managed to miss the staining on the wall behind the couch which I think might have been tested later and found to be snot or some such thing.
Not forgetting their sloppiness in not bothering to look inside any bags seen lying around on their watch.

What a pity there were none of these 'properly trained investigators' available (if such paragons exist). What would they have achieved, I wonder? Would they have accepted the abduction story without question, managed to turn the clock back and retrieve the 'golden hour' closed the roads and borders and found the abductor? If so, why would they have wanted to move a couch and find stains on the wall behind it?
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #899 on: December 30, 2019, 10:47:07 AM »
What a pity there were none of these 'properly trained investigators' available (if such paragons exist). What would they have achieved, I wonder? Would they have accepted the abduction story without question, managed to turn the clock back and retrieve the 'golden hour' closed the roads and borders and found the abductor? If so, why would they have wanted to move a couch and find stains on the wall behind it?

It is indeed a great pity and it is a situation which let Madeleine down very badly.

One wonders why the Portuguese authorities didn't send in a team with the requisite training to deal with a missing child case instead of thief takers out of their depth before even starting. 
Indeed, Amaral became an arguido in the only other missing child case he had ever dealt with the day after Madeleine's disappearance.

Amaral and his cohort were not the only cops in Portugal.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....