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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1125 on: January 03, 2020, 07:51:13 PM »

I hadn't realised before how very sad this all is.

Offline jassi

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1126 on: January 03, 2020, 07:53:46 PM »
I hadn't realised before how very sad this all is.

Within the context of your sentence, what does 'this' refer to ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1127 on: January 03, 2020, 08:06:34 PM »
Expressing your beliefs is part of the behaviour which defines you as a person does it not?  So if someone expresses the belief (for example) that women are inferior to men then that tells us something about themselves as people, something not very credible or creditable. IMO.

The fact that you believe this person to be 'not very credible or creditable' tells me that you are quick to judge without knowing the circumstances. What if the person is a woman? When it comes to pushing heavy cars or just changing a tyre I have always been quite content to acknowledge my inferiority to the men around me and to play the damsel in distress card.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1128 on: January 03, 2020, 08:10:17 PM »
The fact that you believe this person to be 'not very credible or creditable' tells me that you are quick to judge without knowing the circumstances. What if the person is a woman? When it comes to pushing heavy cars or just changing a tyre I have always been quite content to acknowledge my inferiority to the men around me and to play the damsel in distress card.

but you have just judged those who are scammed as idiots...without knowing the full circumstances

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1129 on: January 03, 2020, 08:14:08 PM »
The fact that you believe this person to be 'not very credible or creditable' tells me that you are quick to judge without knowing the circumstances. What if the person is a woman? When it comes to pushing heavy cars or just changing a tyre I have always been quite content to acknowledge my inferiority to the men around me and to play the damsel in distress card.
The circumstances are someone expressing the general view that women are inferior to men.  Change it for the view “that blacks are inferior to whites” or “that gays are inferior to straights”, same applies unless you’re going to play the pedant card and bring up all sorts of absurd caveats to try and deflect.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1130 on: January 03, 2020, 08:14:42 PM »
but you have just judged those who are scammed as idiots...without knowing the full circumstances
Haha, perfectly put.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1131 on: January 03, 2020, 08:19:58 PM »
You might call them idiots... I dont. Particularly old people who lose their life savings...to me they are victims...to you idiots. Thats your belief and defines what sort of person you are..to me vile beliefs equals vile person

Victims of what? Their own naivity, idiocy or greed? No-one can scam someone else without their co-operation.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #1132 on: January 03, 2020, 08:22:52 PM »
The circumstances are someone expressing the general view that women are inferior to men.  Change it for the view “that blacks are inferior to whites” or “that gays are inferior to straights”, same applies unless you’re going to play the pedant card and bring up all sorts of absurd caveats to try and deflect.

You accuse me of pedantry. I accuse you of sweeping statements which ignore detail.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #1133 on: January 03, 2020, 08:25:25 PM »
Victims of what? Their own naivity, idiocy or greed? No-one can scam someone else without their co-operation.

Interesting post... So an elderly person who is scammed our if their life savings is a victim of their own naivety or idiocy ..not the victim of a criminal.. In your opinion .

I think you have lost any credibility you may have had with that post

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1134 on: January 03, 2020, 08:26:17 PM »
You accuse me of pedantry. I accuse you of sweeping statements which ignore detail.
I was making a brief post on a internet chat room forum, not writing a book.  It was an example and you know damn well the point I was making but yet you insist on deflecting with silly off topic caveats. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1135 on: January 03, 2020, 08:27:08 PM »
Interesting post... So an elderly person who is scammed our if their life savings is a victim of their own naivety or idiocy ..not the victim of a criminal.. In your opinion .

I think you have lost any credibility you may have had with that post
Don’t forget greed. 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1136 on: January 03, 2020, 08:28:31 PM »
Expressing your beliefs is part of the behaviour which defines you as a person does it not?  So if someone expresses the belief (for example) that blacks are inferior to whites then that tells us something about themselves as people, something not very credible or creditable. IMO
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1137 on: January 03, 2020, 09:04:44 PM »
Expressing your beliefs is part of the behaviour which defines you as a person does it not?  So if someone expresses the belief (for example) that blacks are inferior to whites then that tells us something about themselves as people, something not very credible or creditable. IMO

So to return to the subject...If someone tells me that a child was abducted because her special bloodline made her suitable to be used for breeding at a later date I may well reach conclusions about that person.

Being a respectful type, however, I wouldn't dream of sharing my conclusions with them. I would, however, ask them to show me their evidence.

If no evidence was forthcoming then their theory would not be sustainable. Saying that is not an attack on the person, it's just pointing out that their theory doesn't have evidential foundations.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #1138 on: January 03, 2020, 09:08:13 PM »
So to return to the subject...If someone tells me that a child was abducted because her special bloodline made her suitable to be used for breeding at a later date I may well reach conclusions about that person.

Being a respectful type, however, I wouldn't dream of sharing my conclusions with them. I would, however, ask them to show me their evidence.

If no evidence was forthcoming then their theory would not be sustainable. Saying that is not an attack on the person, it's just pointing out that their theory doesn't have evidential foundations.

It's like the claim the McCanns are involved in their daughters disappearance..
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1139 on: January 03, 2020, 09:08:20 PM »
So to return to the subject...If someone tells me that a child was abducted because her special bloodline made her suitable to be used for breeding at a later date I may well reach conclusions about that person.

Being a respectful type, however, I wouldn't dream of sharing my conclusions with them. I would, however, ask them to show me their evidence.

If no evidence was forthcoming then their theory would not be sustainable. Saying that is not an attack on the person, it's just pointing out that their theory doesn't have evidential foundations.

Hitchens:That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
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