A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?

[Brietta]

They are still looking at ALL scenarios. They may or may not be interested in a German Paedophile, but as a suspect?   If they were to interview him that would be seen as interfering with a witness  to a crime where they have no justification as the crime was in Portugal.  Something else the supporters need to keep reminding themselves about.

You really don't know anything at all about what is currently happening in Madeleine's case therefore your post is not even opinion but mere speculation.

No-one is going to interview anyone who is a prisoner in Germany ... it just doesn't happen like that ... but I rather suspect you already know that ... certainly everyone else treading the McCann boards or with the slightest knowledge of Madeleine's case past and present does.

'If he is the person of interest, a German force will have to get involved to interview him on their soil.' Clarence Mitchell
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7741505/Ex-Portuguese-police-chief-claims-leading-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-mystery-German-paedophile.html#i-457a6e2d31d9b289

[Mr Gray]

They are still looking at ALL scenarios. They may or may not be interested in a German Paedophile, but as a suspect?   If they were to interview him that would be seen as interfering with a witness  to a crime where they have no justification as the crime was in Portugal.  Something else the supporters need to keep reminding themselves about.

If maddie is dead..or the victim of a sexual offence...SYcould try a suspect in the UK....perhaps it you sceptics who need reminding.

[G-Unit]

What about all the people who do know them and understand them to be innocent?  No doubt their views count count because they DO know them.  LOL.

The friends who were with them at the time seemed swayed by their reactions rather than by any factual considerations.

you know her face I'll never forget. It was a face of someone's child who had been taken...Kate and Gerry were just breaking down you know just their behaviour was, you know was never questioned or did I ever think there was anything strange about you know their behaviour and how they would, they would act, you know in such a set of circumstances
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

 There was no, there was no way I could imagine anyone could, could hide the fear they must have had if something had already happened and, and then, and, and, and display this, this degree, this degree of anguish without being the most accomplished of, of, and cynical of actors, you know this was unimaginable.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

According to their friends and family in the UK they were perfect in every way, but no-one was going to say anything else in the circumstances.

[barrier]

If maddie is dead..or the victim of a sexual offence...SYcould try a suspect in the UK....perhaps it you sceptics who need reminding.

Only if its a brit subject.Also if nothing prevents the offence being tried outwith of England and Irelenad where the offence occured.

9. Where any murder or manslaughter shall be committed on land out of the United Kingdom, whether within the Queen’s dominions or without, and whether the person killed were a subject of Her Majesty or not, every offence committed by any subject of Her Majesty in respect of any such case, whether the same shall amount to the offence of murder or of manslaughter, or of being accessory to murder or manslaughter, may be dealt with, inquired, of, tried, determined, and punished in any county or place in England or Ireland in which such person shall be apprehended or be in custody, in the same manner in all respects as if such offence had been actually committed in that county or place: Provided, that nothing herein contained shall prevent any person from being tried in any place out of England or Ireland for any murder or manslaughter committed out of England or Ireland, in the same manner as such person might have been tried before the passing of this Act.

[faithlilly]

you do have a short memory.  A little while ago I asked you if you thought Amaral was making up the German paedo story for attention.  Your exact reply was

“Possibly...I have no way of knowing Amaral’s motivation”

So where did I say he lied ?

[Mr Gray]

Only if its a brit subject.

I dont think thats true..

Statute and Criminal Codes (i.e. explicit reference in statute to the jurisdictional reach of the offences created in the statute);
Territory;
Active personality (i.e. the accused may  be prosecuted in the country of the nationality of the offender);
Passive personality (i.e. the accused may  be prosecuted in the country of the nationality of the victim); and
Universal jurisdiction (i.e. the state will be able to prosecute regardless of the nationality of the offender, the victim, and where the offence was committed, e.g. torture).

[Vertigo Swirl]

What point is that VS

That Amaral has said the police are investigating a German paedo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The friends who were with them at the time seemed swayed by their reactions rather than by any factual considerations.

you know her face I'll never forget. It was a face of someone's child who had been taken...Kate and Gerry were just breaking down you know just their behaviour was, you know was never questioned or did I ever think there was anything strange about you know their behaviour and how they would, they would act, you know in such a set of circumstances
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

 There was no, there was no way I could imagine anyone could, could hide the fear they must have had if something had already happened and, and then, and, and, and display this, this degree, this degree of anguish without being the most accomplished of, of, and cynical of actors, you know this was unimaginable.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RUSSELL-OBRIEN_ROGATORY.htm

According to their friends and family in the UK they were perfect in every way, but no-one was going to say anything else in the circumstances.

So basically if you know the McCanns your view of them is invalid, if you don’t know the McCanns your view is invalid.  UNLESS of course that view is negative, obviously.  LOL.

[barrier]

I dont think thats true..

Statute and Criminal Codes (i.e. explicit reference in statute to the jurisdictional reach of the offences created in the statute);
Territory;
Active personality (i.e. the accused may  be prosecuted in the country of the nationality of the offender);
Passive personality (i.e. the accused may  be prosecuted in the country of the nationality of the victim); and
Universal jurisdiction (i.e. the state will be able to prosecute regardless of the nationality of the offender, the victim, and where the offence was committed, e.g. torture).

See post 1533.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So where did I say he lied ?

Are you serious?

[Mr Gray]

if SY found evidence against a gernan paedo for a crime against a UK child....and the portuguese refused to investigate that person....it seems the Uk could investigate and if necessary prosecute...perhaps thats whats happening

[kizzy]

he didnt understand the evidence so he had no chance of finding the truth

what evidence was there of an abduction - none.

It doesn't matter what any of you claim to know about the case - you're no further on than when Maddie went missing

Whatever you claim to think you know about the case - it is only your opinion.

No different to anyone who doesn't believe -  the abduction ever happened.

[Mr Gray]

what evidence was there of an abduction - none.

It doesn't matter what any of you claim to know about the case - you're no further on than when Maddie went missing

Whatever you claim to think you know about the case - it is only your opinion.

No different to anyone who doesn't believe -  the abduction ever happened.

Perhaps you dont realise amaral claimed he would ...in the next 50 mins...prove maddie died in the apartment and the death was covered up. he thought he could because he misunderstood the evidence...thats fact,...not opinion

[Brietta]

Of course, they do D - do you think they would have donated so much to his crowdfunding if they didn't

The crowdfunding to fight against the mcns

It is a mystery to me why people are so keen to put money into funds to benefit a verified corrupt and obviously still spiteful cop and all to thwart the search for a missing little girl.

Snip
The McCanns have repeatedly said the false accusations against them have harmed the search for Madeleine.

Gerry has been quoted as saying: 'I'm sure it's a very small minority of people who spend their time doing it, but it has totally inhibited what we do.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7741505/Ex-Portuguese-police-chief-claims-leading-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-mystery-German-paedophile.html#i-457a6e2d31d9b289

I believe pleas for financial support started circulating right from 2010 when the McCanns first took action to have his book defaming them removed from the shelves. So he has certainly been financially dependent on charity for many years ... and that is fine if that is what people wish to do with their money.

The unfortunate thing as far as I am concerned is that in very many cases these are exactly the same individuals who display a visceral hatred for Madeleine's fund which way back then was the only available source to fund the search for missing Madeleine McCann.
Horrendously strange behaviour ... fund a perjuror while attempting to shut down a fund set up to help find a missing child.

[Brietta]

Discredited or not = he was the closest thing to try and get to the truth of what happened to maddie

In my opinion your post could not be further from the truth.