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Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1695 on: March 27, 2020, 04:29:51 PM »
Jez saw the woman in purple aka Jane Tanner. She had long black hair according to Jenny Murat aka Jane Tanner.
Jenny Murat’s description of the woman included ‘slight’ and ‘thin’. To me, this doesn’t fit a description of Jane Tanner.

Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1696 on: March 27, 2020, 05:03:06 PM »
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/exterior-shots-of-gerry-and-kate-mccann-departing-the-news-footage/487715646?adppopup=true

From 38sec, Jenny Murat walking along the pavement (red top) past the "woman in purple" on morning of 4th May 2007. That's the same Jane Tanner who later was reported to have identified JM's son as Tannerman based on his gait.
Media reports quoted Jenny saying she didn't recognise the woman in purple so it's highly unlikely to have been Jane Tanner - or Luisa Todorov.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3469215/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-latest-theory-woman-in-car/

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1697 on: March 28, 2020, 01:57:30 PM »
Luisa has denied it and did she have long black hair? Her hair is curly from recent pics.

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1698 on: March 28, 2020, 02:01:33 PM »
Jenny Murat’s description of the woman included ‘slight’ and ‘thin’. To me, this doesn’t fit a description of Jane Tanner.

Do you think she looks fat? Nonsense!  The woman in purple was Jane Tanner.

Jane Tanner in PDL

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1699 on: March 28, 2020, 04:29:14 PM »
Do you think she looks fat? Nonsense!  The woman in purple was Jane Tanner.

Jane Tanner in PDL



The fact that she doesn’t look ‘thin’ (to me at least), doesn’t mean she is fat. Those are your words. She surely is not ‘slight’. Is it known that Jane Tanner has been hanging around block 5 before Madeleine disappeared?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1700 on: March 28, 2020, 07:06:48 PM »
Yes Jez Wilkins is the witness. Her mobile records also reveal that she was using it at that time.

"I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

The raw telecom data provided to OP TASK shows that the mobile phone attributed to Jane TANNER (0780854191) was in contact with mobile number 07949731844 at 20:30:21 hrs on 3rd May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm
« Last Edit: March 28, 2020, 07:15:55 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1701 on: March 28, 2020, 08:03:27 PM »
Yes Jez Wilkins is the witness. Her mobile records also reveal that she was using it at that time.

"I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

The raw telecom data provided to OP TASK shows that the mobile phone attributed to Jane TANNER (0780854191) was in contact with mobile number 07949731844 at 20:30:21 hrs on 3rd May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm
That call was made to Charlotte Gorrod?
« Last Edit: March 28, 2020, 09:31:25 PM by Brietta »

Offline Anthro

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1702 on: March 28, 2020, 08:52:24 PM »
Yes Jez Wilkins is the witness. Her mobile records also reveal that she was using it at that time.

"I left the apartment and turned right. I walked via the lower street, looked to the building block where the McCann apartment was situated and saw a woman dressed in purple clothing. I referred to this woman in relation to the questions asked by Jane Tanner."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS-ROGATORY.htm

The raw telecom data provided to OP TASK shows that the mobile phone attributed to Jane TANNER (0780854191) was in contact with mobile number 07949731844 at 20:30:21 hrs on 3rd May 2007

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm

What about Jenny Murat’s memory of whom she saw? A woman, wearing a skirt, trying to hide herself around a lamppost. [my summary]. Jane Tanner does not come across as someone wearing a skirt on holiday?

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1703 on: March 28, 2020, 09:52:14 PM »
What about Jenny Murat’s memory of whom she saw? A woman, wearing a skirt, trying to hide herself around a lamppost. [my summary]. Jane Tanner does not come across as someone wearing a skirt on holiday?

And what possible reason would Jane have had to try to hide herself?  She was perfectly entitled to be seen either outside her holiday accommodation or in the vicinity thereof.

The problem appears to be that whatever innocuous, legitimate or normal action taken by any of the McCann party, it is portrayed as at the least "suspicious" but the behaviour of strangers reportedly 'hanging around' in the immediate vicinity of a property soon to become a crime scene are totally ignored or excused.  Quite bizarre!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1704 on: March 28, 2020, 11:11:42 PM »
She was most likely reading and replying to her friends text message (Charlotte in
That call was made to Charlotte Gorrod?



Yes see Jane's rog. She was most likely reading and replying to her text message outside the apartments when Jez noticed her there dressed in purple. Do you think there were two woman in purple at that time at the same location? Time to leave fantasy land!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1705 on: March 28, 2020, 11:22:17 PM »
She was most likely reading and replying to her friends text message (Charlotte in

Yes see Jane's rog. She was most likely reading and replying to her text message outside the apartments when Jez noticed her there dressed in purple. Do you think there were two woman in purple at that time in the same location? Time to leave fantasy land!

So which car was Jenny driving when she saw the woman in purple & how do you correlate the time of the sighting with both the 8pm closing time of Baptista & Jenny arriving home at around the same time as Robert? (see statement 15/5/07 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JENNIFER-MURAT.htm). Robert said he arrived home between 7.15 & 7.30pm in his first statement

Offline pathfinder73

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1706 on: March 28, 2020, 11:53:28 PM »
So which car was Jenny driving when she saw the woman in purple & how do you correlate the time of the sighting with both the 8pm closing time of Baptista & Jenny arriving home at around the same time as Robert? (see statement 15/5/07 https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JENNIFER-MURAT.htm). Robert said he arrived home between 7.15 & 7.30pm in his first statement

About 19h50 she went to the "Batista" supermarket to buy bread

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JENNIFER-MURAT.htm

She said in reports that she was on her way back from the supermarket when she spotted the woman in purple.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1707 on: March 29, 2020, 12:10:56 AM »
About 19h50 she went to the "Batista" supermarket to buy bread

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JENNIFER-MURAT.htm

She said in reports that she was on her way back from the supermarket when she spotted the woman in purple.

Baptista closed at 8pm. How long would it have taken JM to make that short drive up Rua FdG Martins & what car was she driving?

Offline barrier

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1708 on: March 29, 2020, 07:06:41 AM »
And what possible reason would Jane have had to try to hide herself?  She was perfectly entitled to be seen either outside her holiday accommodation or in the vicinity thereof.

The problem appears to be that whatever innocuous, legitimate or normal action taken by any of the McCann party, it is portrayed as at the least "suspicious" but the behaviour of strangers reportedly 'hanging around' in the immediate vicinity of a property soon to become a crime scene are totally ignored or excused.  Quite bizarre!
The Very same can be said of any one that was going about their daily business and trying to retro fit them into something suspicious like an alleged abduction by amateur sleuths. St Mary Mead is where it belongs.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #1709 on: March 29, 2020, 10:01:36 AM »
The Very same can be said of any one that was going about their daily business and trying to retro fit them into something suspicious like an alleged abduction by amateur sleuths. St Mary Mead is where it belongs.


But the likelihood of an abduction has been confirmed by the professional sleuths