KM's Paperback (PB)

[Mr Gray]

Well I forget what prompted me to ask you about your faith, but at times I have been really offended by your criticism of mine.  Yet you back Kate who is a lot more religious than me.  I find that hard to understand.

Most if your post is personal and against forum rules.. I'm entitled to criticise any religion... That's a given...
I support Kates claim to innocence... I'm entitled to that opinion... Anything else

[Robittybob1]

I don't think it at all surprising that anyone in the circumstances Gerry found himself in would be overcome and collapse in despair at the enormity of it all.
I think the description of it and the parents' distress as portrayed in Amaral's documentary quite extraordinary and puts the descriptive Tweedledum and Tweedledee in Kate's book into perspective.

Members of churches that could be described as "Pentecostals" would have no issue in humbling themselves.
Unless you have experienced those sort of behaviours one could think of it a bit strange. 

[Mr Gray]

For me, it remains as image management.

It is akin to picking up Antony and Cleopatra, only to find they are not the principal characters.

That split still appears to permeate this forum.  Is Madeleine the main focus?

Hand on heart I would have to say that for many here it appears not.

Do you have a cite for.. Many it appears not... I don't think that's at all true

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't think it at all surprising that anyone in the circumstances Gerry found himself in would be overcome and collapse in despair at the enormity of it all.
I think the description of it and the parents' distress as portrayed in Amaral's documentary quite extraordinary and puts the descriptive Tweedledum and Tweedledee in Kate's book into perspective.

But even a crack team could amount to Tweededum and Tweeledee if they are fed inaccurate info by one of the most important witnesses.  Initially GM claimed he was using the front door and not the unsecured patio doors which he later changed.  KM claimed she found the window open and the shutter raised.  Given the info the GNR officers received from the McCanns its hardly surprising the investigation got off to a bad start.

[Mr Gray]

Members of churches that could be described as "Pentecostals" would have no issue in humbling themselves.
Unless you have experienced those sort of behaviours one could think of it a bit strange.

I see nothing strange at two absolutely distraught parents thriwng themselves to their knees... I find it strange it being described as praying like, arabs

[Brietta]

For me, it remains as image management.

It is akin to picking up Antony and Cleopatra, only to find they are not the principal characters.

That split still appears to permeate this forum.  Is Madeleine the main focus?

Hand on heart I would have to say that for many here it appears not.

I don't think Kate McCann particularly wanted to bare her soul in a book.
I think one must refer to the context and to the time when Kate wrote her book about Madeleine.

In 2010 her little girl had been missing after vanishing from her bed in 2007 and no-one was looking for her with the exception of private detectives paid for by Madeleine's Fund which had been set up for that purpose.

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All proceeds from it will go to the McCanns' official fund to look for Madeleine, which had been in danger of running out next year.

"My reason for writing is simple: to give an account of the truth," said Kate McCann. "Publishing this book has been a very difficult decision, and is one that we have taken after much deliberation and with a very heavy heart.

"However, in the last few months, with the depletion of Madeleine's fund, it is a decision that has virtually been taken out of our hands. Every penny we raise through its sales will be spent on our search for Madeleine. Nothing is more important to us than finding our little girl."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/15/mcanns-book-search-madeleine

[Mr Gray]

But even a crack team could amount to Tweededum and Tweeledee if they are fed inaccurate info by one of the most important witnesses.  Initially GM claimed he was using the front door and not the unsecured patio doors which he later changed.  KM claimed she found the window open and the shutter raised.  Given the info the GNR officers received from the McCanns its hardly surprising the investigation got off to a bad start.

I think it's quite possible that Gerry never claimed he was using the front door.... It was a lost in translation moment.. Imo

[Angelo222]

I don't think it at all surprising that anyone in the circumstances Gerry found himself in would be overcome and collapse in despair at the enormity of it all.
I think the description of it and the parents' distress as portrayed in Amaral's documentary quite extraordinary and puts the descriptive Tweedledum and Tweedledee in Kate's book into perspective.

Sorry but I totally disagree Brietta.  The police bent over backwards to accommodate the McCanns in what was very difficult circumstances and caused in part by the McCanns interfering friends who created the circus.

The police were correct to suspect the McCanns and Kate's refusal to answer the simplest of questions only reinforced their suspicions.  Having a go at several police officers in her book was nothing more than sour grapes.

[Robittybob1]

Most if your post is personal and against forum rules.. I'm entitled to criticise any religion... That's a given...
I support Kates claim to innocence... I'm entitled to that opinion... Anything else

Remind me of Kate's claim to innocence?  I recall Gerry's claim but did Kate do the same?

[Mr Gray]

Sorry but I totally disagree Brietta.  The police bent over backwards to accommodate the McCanns in what was very difficult circumstances and caused in part by the McCanns interfering friends who created the circus.

The police were correct to suspect the McCanns and Kate's refusal to answer the simplest of questions only reinforced their suspicions.

The PJ were absolutely right to suspect the mccanns... Unfortunately they then tried to make the evidence fit. .when ut didn't.. To support their suspicions.. Thst was their gross failure.. Imo... And where the search fir maddue was, seriously ket down by their failings

[ShiningInLuz]

Do you have a cite for.. Many it appears not... I don't think that's at all true

I don't need a cite for my opinion.

[Mr Gray]

Remind me of Kate's claim to innocence?  I recall Gerry's claim but did Kate do the same?

So you don't think Kate claims to be innocent..

[Mr Gray]

I don't need a cite for my opinion.

I never said you did.   ...I asked if you had one.. Your post makes it clear it us merely your opinion

[Holly Goodhead]

Well I forget what prompted me to ask you about your faith, but at times I have been really offended by your criticism of mine.  Yet you back Kate who is a lot more religious than me.  I find that hard to understand.

I don't think there's any evidence KM was/is particularly religious.

She was brought up in the Catholic faith and by her own admission only went through a very brief phrase when she questioned such which will not please the likes of Richard Dawkins. 

As I've posted previously if KM's faith was strong then why didn't she go along to mass on hol pre MM's disappearance?   

[Robittybob1]

keep to the topic of Kate's book.