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[Holly Goodhead]

A sense of urgency, coupled with a completely open mind, plenty of highly trained resources, efficient filing systems and cross referencing, rapid pursuance of credible leads, proper note and statement taking (audio recordings at the very least), professional translators, loads more but I’m getting ready right now...

Assuming PJ were lacking in the above areas what, if anything, has prevented the private detective agencies and MET catching up? 

[Erngath]

You are attempting to compare the Met with its huge budget with a small region in Portugal where crime is rare. IMO the PJ did an extraordinary job in very difficult circumstances with limited funds.

Many of the suggestion made by VS, require no huge budget but just proper policing and organisational skills and experience..

[Vertigo Swirl]

Assuming PJ were lacking in the above areas what, if anything, has prevented the private detective agencies and MET catching up?

Distance in terms of hours from the time Madeleine went missing would be the primary hurdle imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You are attempting to compare the Met with its huge budget with a small region in Portugal where crime is rare. IMO the PJ did an extraordinary job in very difficult circumstances with limited funds. The McCanns and their associated created the circus which ultimately engulfed the entire investigation.  The illegal conduct by certain individuals associated with the McCanns post disappearance was appalling imo and I for one would still like to see them prosecuted for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Yeah, just how is that campaign of yours going?

[Brietta]

You are attempting to compare the Met with its huge budget with a small region in Portugal where crime is rare. IMO the PJ did an extraordinary job in very difficult circumstances with limited funds.

I don't think you've got that right Angelo.  There was a problem with burglaries {two in the apartments immediately above 5A and one in the ground floor apartment in the next block mirroring the McCann apartment} and there was the problem of home invasions when assaults were carried out on children for which Euclides Monteiro was investigated by the police.  https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/madeleine-suspect-was-questioned-about-sex-assaults-30242298.html

[Angelo222]

Assuming PJ were lacking in the above areas what, if anything, has prevented the private detective agencies and MET catching up?

The biggest hurdle was the behaviour of the parents themselves which imo did very little to assist the investigation. The McCanns were terrified that they would be prosecuted for child neglect which would have destroyed their respective careers in the medical profession. As it was, they got away with a slap on the wrists and a regular check on the twins by English social services.

[Brietta]

The MET still haven't come up with the answer that contradicts the initial investigation either.

You just do not know that, do you?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Many of the suggestion made by VS, require no huge budget but just proper policing and organisational skills and experience..

Exactly, plus some collective IQs in the 120+ bracket would have helped.  Judging from the level of intelligence on display in his book and during his tenure on the case I would say Amaral was somewhat lacking in that department, same with some of his colleagues  #notthebrighteststarinthefirmament

[Mr Gray]

The biggest hurdle was the behaviour of the parents themselves which imo did very little to assist the investigation. The McCanns were terrified that they would be prosecuted for child neglect which would have destroyed their respective careers in the medical profession. As it was, they got away with a slap on the wrists and a regular check on the twins by English social services.

The biggest problem was the failure of the pj to understand the evidence in thr case... Failure to listen to the experts.
A neglect conviction would not have affected the medical careers of the mccanns

[Vertigo Swirl]

The biggest hurdle was the behaviour of the parents themselves which imo did very little to assist the investigation. The McCanns were terrified that they would be prosecuted for child neglect which would have destroyed their respective careers in the medical profession. As it was, they got away with a slap on the wrists and a regular check on the twins by English social services.

You get today’s special award for dedicated services to victim blaming 2019, congratulations. 

[Wonderfulspam]

You get today’s special award for dedicated services to victim blaming 2019, congratulations.

That's assuming the McCanns are victims.

I'm yet to see any proof that they didn't do it.

[Brietta]

The biggest hurdle was the behaviour of the parents themselves which imo did very little to assist the investigation. The McCanns were terrified that they would be prosecuted for child neglect which would have destroyed their respective careers in the medical profession. As it was, they got away with a slap on the wrists and a regular check on the twins by English social services.

I think the biggest hurdle which arises time after time in Kate's book was the difficulty of communication.

For example, initially I thought the influence brought to the case by Silvia Batista was a negative one. I now think that was due to misunderstanding or misuse of her skills by the PJ. 
Kate McCann speaks very warmly of her in her book as being an excellent person who acted to the best of her ability at an horrific time.

[Holly Goodhead]

Exactly, plus some collective IQs in the 120+ bracket would have helped.  Judging from the level of intelligence on display in his book and during his tenure on the case I would say Amaral was somewhat lacking in that department, same with some of his colleagues  #notthebrighteststarinthefirmament

On paper at least the McCanns must be above average in intelligence and yet it didn't prevent them from making a stupid decision which had disastrous consequences for their daughter. 

[G-Unit]

You are attempting to compare the Met with its huge budget with a small region in Portugal where crime is rare. IMO the PJ did an extraordinary job in very difficult circumstances with limited funds. The McCanns and their associated created the circus which ultimately engulfed the entire investigation.  The illegal conduct by certain individuals associated with the McCanns post disappearance was appalling imo and I for one would still like to see them prosecuted for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

The unacceptable behaviour of the parents in conducting a media campaign resulting in thousands of time-wasting sightings did more damage than anything the PJ did. Had the crime occured in the UK the police would have stopped that from happening in my opinion. I think OG have stopped it now, but it took a while.

[Brietta]

On paper at least the McCanns must be above average in intelligence and yet it didn't prevent them from making a stupid decision which had disastrous consequences for their daughter.

I take it you have read Kate's book??  If you have you will see that the McCanns worked out long, long ago that they made a stupid decision which they will have to live with forever.

Why do you feel the need to shoulder their burden by constant repetition?