KM's Paperback (PB)

[The General]

I find Kate's personal account of the criticism she and Gerry were subject to harrowing.  She describes it as being kicked when they were down; it then turned what Kate describes as nasty ...  I think it was nothing short of sick.

Kate describes disciplining herself to ignore these vile communications which had almost pushed them over the edge at the lowest ebb of their lives and began instead to develop pity for the perpetrators.

I doubt I could have been as charitable as she when it came to these poor lost souls ... particularly as a dedicated rump have been at it for twelve years without a break.  I think that type of malevolent obsession must say far more about them than those with whom they are sadly obsessed.

Don't sit on the fence, tell us what you think. And I wonder who this diatribe is aimed at?

[Mr Gray]

Of course they were criticised, as Kate accepted; they were at fault.

"We came in for some criticism, of course, for leaving the children in the apartment while we had dinner" [madeleine]

In my opinion some genuine contrition might have helped, rather than the excuses they made for their behaviour. Excuses which are still repeated to this day by some.

It was obvious to others that Kate McCann never really accepted that she did wrong;

"That night runs over and over in my mind and I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html

The victims of a crime should never have to apologise to the public for being the victims if a crime.... And it's only a few in the net who pathologically dislike them that want them to.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course they were criticised, as Kate accepted; they were at fault.

"We came in for some criticism, of course, for leaving the children in the apartment while we had dinner" [madeleine]

In my opinion some genuine contrition might have helped, rather than the excuses they made for their behaviour. Excuses which are still repeated to this day by some.

It was obvious to others that Kate McCann never really accepted that she did wrong;

"That night runs over and over in my mind and I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html

I still don’t understand why members of the public like you feel you are owed a public apology by Kate and Gerry.  Perhaps you could explain?

[The General]

The vuctuns of a crime should never have to apologise to the public for being the victims if a crime.... And it's only a few in the net who pathologically dislike them that want them to.

It is a few. The overwhelming majority of everyone don't give a shit. Every 'newsworthy' story, positive or negative, attracts a few unhinged blerts. This is no different and I don't think anyone here has a pathological hatred or sycophantic admiration - we all occupy the middle ground here, with a leaning either way.

[Brietta]

Of course they were criticised, as Kate accepted; they were at fault.

"We came in for some criticism, of course, for leaving the children in the apartment while we had dinner" [madeleine]

In my opinion some genuine contrition might have helped, rather than the excuses they made for their behaviour. Excuses which are still repeated to this day by some.

It was obvious to others that Kate McCann never really accepted that she did wrong;

"That night runs over and over in my mind and I'm sure people will learn from our mistake, if you want to call it that."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1559517/Madeleine-McCanns-mother-recalls-last-chat.html

What is obvious to you is not necessarily the case and to me certainly does not reflect to the unbiased reader what Kate McCann has published.
Kate's book screams of her huge pain and regret for stolen lives ... it also points out that while the concentration is on opprobrium directed at her and her family, someone who is capable of sneaking into a house and removing a child from it walks under the radar and still walks the streets.

What is extraordinary is the eagerness with which some have gone out of their way to heap more pain on top of the unbearable pain suffered by Madeleine's family.

What does it avail these misguided individuals and groups to speculate about and describe in lurid detail to the mother of a missing little girl their perverse imaginings of her fate.  Kate describes the horror in her book and how it almost broke her.

What does it avail them to play games with the intention of disrupting any initiative which may solve what happened to Madeleine and might even lead to her recovery.  Keeping up that sort of vitriol over a period of twelve years requires a particular type of person in my opinion; the only positive thing I can think of saying about them is that maybe while they are concentrating their bile on the McCanns someone else is getting a rest.

Snip
Scores of people are thought to have made nuisance calls to the inquiry following a fresh appeal for information on the BBC's Crimewatch show.

Many boasted on Twitter about their time-wasting stunts, with some claiming they told the police new e-fits released on the programme looked like Madeleine's father Gerry, 44.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/sick-internet-trolls-target-kate-18629467#:~:targetText=Sick%20internet%20trolls%20target%20Kate%20and%20Gerry%20McCann%20after%20Crimewatch,been%20hit%20by%20vile%20trolls.&targetText=Scores%20of%20people%20are%20thought,on%20the%20BBC's%20Crimewatch%20show.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It is a few. The overwhelming majority of everyone don't give a shit. Every 'newsworthy' story, positive or negative, attracts a few unhinged blerts. This is no different and I don't think anyone here has a pathological hatred or sycophantic admiration - we all occupy the middle ground here, with a leaning either way.

Oh come on, everyone knows Davel and I WORSHIP the McCanns.

[The General]

I still don’t understand why members of the public like you feel you are owed a public apology by Kate and Gerry.  Perhaps you could explain?

I can't reply for G-Unit, although I don't think she wants an apology, but in terms of 'members of the public', the explanation is simple - it's simple people, with simple emotions, venting in simplistic terms, looking for a simple action, as if some contrition would assuage their sanctimony. Most of the irrational who may want that, and that's a very small subset of society, don't even know that's actually what they want - it's the old vicarious outrage again.
If Kate or Gerry actually issued some public apology, and I don't think they should by the way, those who wanted it would probably just be further outraged in a Pythonesque way 'you see! They apologised! I told you, they were wrong! Look at them! Damn you to hell!'.

[The General]

Oh come on, everyone knows Davel and I WORSHIP the McCanns.

I meant except you; goes without saying.

[Brietta]

It is a few. The overwhelming majority of everyone don't give a shit. Every 'newsworthy' story, positive or negative, attracts a few unhinged blerts. This is no different and I don't think anyone here has a pathological hatred or sycophantic admiration - we all occupy the middle ground here, with a leaning either way.

Are you sure you haven't read Kate's book?  even a wee sneaky peek?  Kate certainly made the same point you have hit on, that it is a tiny rump behaving in this malicious and misguided way.
No need in this internet age to run out of green ink or develop writers cramp ... all one needs is the time to sit at a keyboard all day and decide which one, how many or all of one's identities to post as and what the theme of the day will be.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can't reply for G-Unit, although I don't think she wants an apology, but in terms of 'members of the public', the explanation is simple - it's simple people, with simple emotions, venting in simplistic terms, looking for a simple action, as if some contrition would assuage their sanctimony. Most of the irrational who may want that, and that's a very small subset of society, don't even know that's actually what they want - it's the old vicarious outrage again.
If Kate or Gerry actually issued some public apology, and I don't think they should by the way, those who wanted it would probably just be further outraged in a Pythonesque way 'you see! They apologised! I told you, they were wrong! Look at them! Damn you to hell!'.

Well you’ve certainly hit the nail on the head there IMO.

[G-Unit]

I still don’t understand why members of the public like you feel you are owed a public apology by Kate and Gerry.  Perhaps you could explain?

I have no right or desire for an apology, nothing they did or said offended me. I do have the right to an opinion, however and my opinion is that they refused to acknowledge just how wrong their treatment of their children was.

[Mr Gray]

I have no right or desire for an apology, nothing they did or said offended me. I do have the right to an opinion, however and my opinion is that they refused to acknowledge just how wrong their treatment of their children was.

And in my opinion they have

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have no right or desire for an apology, nothing they did or said offended me. I do have the right to an opinion, however and my opinion is that they refused to acknowledge just how wrong their treatment of their children was.

How do you know they have refused to do this?  Why does the acknowledgement need to be made public?  To satisfy whom and why?

[Brietta]

I have no right or desire for an apology, nothing they did or said offended me. I do have the right to an opinion, however and my opinion is that they refused to acknowledge just how wrong their treatment of their children was.

They may not have posted the same mantra every single day on as many internet and social media outlets available to them but Kate describes her "crucifying anguish" and "the sense of guilt" they felt because as Madeleine's parents they had "failed to keep her safe".

I think Kate's book is one huge cry of anguish about what happened to Madeleine and many of your posts fail to address her many references both within it and elsewhere to the guilt she carries with her and will for every day of her life.
So far she has served well over twelve years of a sentence she has had no choice but to serve.  It is undoubted there are those who feel a sense of entitlement to keep on crucifying her in her anguish.  To what end?  for me, just another mystery concerning Madeleine's case wondering why people would want to spend living their lives through the of prism of hatred which as Kate said, " To have so little compassion or understanding and so much malice in your heart must surely make you one hell of an unhappy soul."

[pathfinder73]

And so you think Gerry is sufficiently sociopathic to put his own self preservation first, and the search for his daughter and his daughter’s abductor second do you?  You think he is so callous and cynical that he would invent a heart rending account of his last sighting of his daughter to fool not only the police but slso his wife, his other children and the rest of his family?  Yet you also credit him with the capacity to feel shame?  IMO these are not compatible traits.   I think your narrative is coloured by your personal dislike of the man.

If Gerry is Smithman then yes and his wife knows. Police wouldn't think they were covering up an accident if they are involved. Amaral was nice.