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Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1245 on: November 07, 2019, 07:35:58 PM »
Based on the law surrounding the OSA, what sort of role would Defreitas have played as a witness for Amaral? JDF worked for the UK police, not for PJ. Information he handled was from the UK, not Portuguese witnesses. Kate's book does not indicate a great deal of personal contact with JDF. AFAIK he was not involved in the formulation of the Amaral/Almeida hypothesis.
There could also have been a conflict of interest had the CPS wanted, at a later stage, to prosecute a UK citizen for a crimes against Madeleine under UK jurisdiction. All IMO.

Amaral's lawyers clearly thought that de Freitas would have been able to support Amaral's case. We don't know how, but we know that the UK authorities wouldn't allow him to give evidence.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1246 on: November 07, 2019, 07:40:29 PM »
Why should it be? Members opinions have no bearing on the events of 3rd May 2007
Sorry, I was under the impression that we were here to discuss the case, not just to bash the McCanns incessantly.   
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Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1247 on: November 07, 2019, 07:49:55 PM »
Amaral's lawyers clearly thought that de Freitas would have been able to support Amaral's case. We don't know how, but we know that the UK authorities wouldn't allow him to give evidence.

IMO there was nothing Defreitas could have said in his role as a serving UK police officer, without breaking the OSA, which would have supported Amaral's right to libel the McCanns.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1248 on: November 07, 2019, 07:59:29 PM »
IMO there was nothing Defreitas could have said in his role as a serving UK police officer, without breaking the OSA, which would have supported Amaral's right to libel the McCanns.

All rather hypothetical as Amaral won without his input.
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Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1249 on: November 07, 2019, 08:07:11 PM »
All rather hypothetical as Amaral won without his input.

Amaral didn't win in the court which directly heard the witnesses.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1250 on: November 07, 2019, 08:14:20 PM »
Amaral didn't win in the court which directly heard the witnesses.

He won in the end, which is all that counts.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline The General

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1251 on: November 07, 2019, 08:19:07 PM »
Amaral didn't win in the court which directly heard the witnesses.
Did Amaral's theory and subsequent book stop you from searching for little Maddie? I'll answer for you; it was rhetorical - no. I don't get how he's the demon here. 'Ooh, Amaral won in the courts, so he's stopping us all looking for Maddie and siphoning money out of the fund as a result'. How so? Who brought the action against whom? If he's such a balloon, then let his story wither on the vine. By taking legal action, the irony is that his book received free publicity - WAY TO GO GUYS, YOU DID IT! WOO! THAT'LL LEARN YA, GONZO!
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Offline Erngath

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1252 on: November 07, 2019, 08:37:02 PM »
He won in the end, which is all that counts.

Why?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1253 on: November 07, 2019, 08:40:55 PM »
Why?

Because it brings the prolonged action in the Portuguese courts to an end.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pathfinder73

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1254 on: November 07, 2019, 08:41:17 PM »
Who had the last laugh



Q – Aren’t you curious to know what the book says?

Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won’t help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.

Gerry called her Maddie on his friends reunited page. Kate the joker!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline misty

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1255 on: November 07, 2019, 08:43:42 PM »
Did Amaral's theory and subsequent book stop you from searching for little Maddie? I'll answer for you; it was rhetorical - no. I don't get how he's the demon here. 'Ooh, Amaral won in the courts, so he's stopping us all looking for Maddie and siphoning money out of the fund as a result'. How so? Who brought the action against whom? If he's such a balloon, then let his story wither on the vine. By taking legal action, the irony is that his book received free publicity - WAY TO GO GUYS, YOU DID IT! WOO! THAT'LL LEARN YA, GONZO!

How many people in Portugal or posters on this forum/other social media platforms would have considered still looking for Madeleine after the publication of Amaral's book & watching the documentary? Very often documentaries are the most influential in shaping opinions of the uninitiated.

Offline Erngath

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1256 on: November 07, 2019, 08:43:55 PM »
Because it brings the prolonged action in the Portuguese courts to an end.

I thought it important elsewhere
Possibly a difference in opinion in what is important.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Erngath

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1257 on: November 07, 2019, 08:45:03 PM »
Who had the last laugh



Q – Aren’t you curious to know what the book says?

Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won’t help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.

Gerry called her Maddie on his friends reunited page. Kate the joker!

You never fail to disappoint.
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Offline jassi

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1258 on: November 07, 2019, 08:45:55 PM »
I thought it important elsewhere
Possibly a difference in opinion in what is important.

In a legal case, winning is what counts.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Erngath

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #1259 on: November 07, 2019, 08:48:57 PM »
In a legal case, winning is what counts.
Guess Amaral has won.
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Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.