When, where and how did witnesses learn of MM's disappearance?

[Mr Gray]

The authorities were not convinced by the timeline provided by the group, which is why they wanted a reconstitution. In my opinion the only reason they wrote what they did in their reports is because they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told.

By authorities you mean the initial investigation which imo has been discredited.  The present investigation has expressed no such concern

[The General]

The magic word is ... "around".  No-one has a precise time for anything, although Kate was specific with 10.00pm and the Judicial police and the Public Prosecutors determined after studying the evidence, that when the alarm was raised Gerry was sitting in his place at the tapas table.
If he hadn't been we would have known about it.

No time for being vague, surely? I know there wasn't a timepiece between them (I mean, why would you, you're on holiday?), but they're all pretty adamant about the spacings of the 'checks'.

[The General]

By authorities you mean the initial investigation which imo has been discredited.  The present investigation has expressed no such concern

Discredited by whom, Ironside?

[Mr Gray]

No time for being vague, surely? I know there wasn't a timepiece between them (I mean, why would you, you're on holiday?), but they're all pretty adamant about the spacings of the 'checks'.

When someone says about or around they are not being precise... It really is as simple as that

[Mr Gray]

Discredited by whom, Ironside?

Anyone with any common sense IMO.


As to the tools the PJ were working with, it strikes me as woefully inadequate for an investigation of this size (and complexity), therefore I wonder what the largest case tackled prior to this was.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The authorities were not convinced by the timeline provided by the group, which is why they wanted a reconstitution. In my opinion the only reason they wrote what they did in their reports is because they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told.

A reconstitution would not have changed a thing imo.

[The General]

Anyone with any common sense IMO.


As to the tools the PJ were working with, it strikes me as woefully inadequate for an investigation of this size (and complexity), therefore I wonder what the largest case tackled prior to this was.

Please provide 6 examples of these inadequate tools, not including yourself. (should stick an emoji on the end of that, coz it's jokezz)

[Mr Gray]

Please provide 6 examples of these inadequate tools, not including yourself. (should stick an emoji on the end of that, coz it's jokezz)

Why should I.. It's not my statements it's one by SIL... Perhaps we can ask sil to explain


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6599.msg271367#msg271367

[ShiningInLuz]

Why should I.. It's not my statements it's one by SIL... Perhaps we can ask sil to explain


http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6599.msg271367#msg271367

Why would you wish to refer to a comment made in another debate over 4 years ago?

Do some original thinking of your own.   

[Brietta]

The authorities were not convinced by the timeline provided by the group, which is why they wanted a reconstitution. In my opinion the only reason they wrote what they did in their reports is because they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told.

You say " ... they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told."                                     

That sums up the situation ... they had no evidence ... which is why they (the PJ) were unable to raise charges against anyone.
I'm surprised you cannot understand that.

Do you think the Judicial police didn't compare all they were told to enable them to build a picture for investigation purposes ... I think it is known as evidence gathering.

[Mr Gray]

Why would you wish to refer to a comment made in another debate over 4 years ago?

Do some original thinking of your own.   

I referred to it because I knew the general would criticise it thinking it was mine... Over to you to answer the generals criticism..
My thought process was quite original... Perhaps you are a little embarrassed by your comment... PJ bashing by sil... Lol

[G-Unit]

Another inaccuracy... The news didn't hurtle around PDL... Just around the Ocean Club...

You seem to be trying to make a very trivial point..
Your posts Re the facts are inccuarate.. Yet you question the inaccuracy of others

Was the Duke of Holland part of the Ocean Club? The answer is no, it was in Praia da Luz. So which Mark Warner employee was so on the ball that she reached there before the missing child procedure began?

[Mr Gray]

Was the Duke of Holland part of the Ocean Club? The answer is no, it was in Praia da Luz. So which Mark Warner employee was so on the ball that she reached there before the missing child procedure began?

How far from the OC.... Certainly not hurtling round Luz.
I see nothing strange in the action.. I would think many were searching before the missing child procedure began

[Brietta]

You say " ... they had no evidence with which to contradict what they were told."                                     

That sums up the situation ... they had no evidence ... which is why they (the PJ) were unable to raise charges against anyone.
I'm surprised you cannot understand that.

Do you think the Judicial police didn't compare all they were told to enable them to build a picture for investigation purposes ... I think it is known as evidence gathering.

Easy to find for research purposes though with only nine posts.  Seems members had some difficulty finding anything positive to say about what Amaral and Co got right.

[ShiningInLuz]

I referred to it because I knew the general would criticise it thinking it was mine... Over to you to answer the generals criticism..
My thought process was quite original... Perhaps you are a little embarrassed by your comment... PJ bashing by sil... Lol

Nope.  The ball is firmly in your court.