When Madeleine is Found.

[The General]

It's fin bi mee...soz an all dat

I said they would feel more than a bit silly...not a bit silly..
I think they would look total twits (sic)

You make an interesting point. If her remains are found, then the 'supporters' wouldn't feel 'a bit silly', or 'a total twit', but more likely deep, deep mortal shame, enveloping regret and a gnawing, crushing feeling of having been duped in to almost aiding and abetting the ruse. In my opinion. While we're doing the arl sweeping statement / labelling thing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You make an interesting point. If her remains are found, then the 'supporters' wouldn't feel 'a bit silly', or 'a total twit', but more likely deep, deep mortal shame, enveloping regret and a gnawing, crushing feeling of having been duped in to almost aiding and abetting the ruse. In my opinion. While we're doing the arl sweeping statement / labelling thing.

Why would we? I believe Madeleine is very likely dead, killed on or shortly after 3rd May 2007.  So why would I feel shame if her body was discovered?

[Mr Gray]

You make an interesting point. If her remains are found, then the 'supporters' wouldn't feel 'a bit silly', or 'a total twit', but more likely deep, deep mortal shame, enveloping regret and a gnawing, crushing feeling of having been duped in to almost aiding and abetting the ruse. In my opinion. While we're doing the arl sweeping statement / labelling thing.

What ruse....i wouldnt feel any of those things.

[Miss Taken Identity]

If Maddie is found alive and tells of her harrowing life to date... the supporters should feel a twinge of guilt because they supported people who, by their poor parenting skills, made this happen.

It would also be interesting if she claimed she left to find her parents...  All those posts claiming someone jemmied the shutter and window open, not forgetting the whooshing curtains  to steal her...

[The General]

Looks like someone's taken an axe to this thread.

[Mr Gray]

If Maddie is found alive and tells of her harrowing life to date... the supporters should feel a twinge of guilt because they supported people who, by their poor parenting skills, made this happen.

It would also be interesting if she claimed she left to find her parents...  All those posts claiming someone jemmied the shutter and window open, not forgetting the whooshing curtains  to steal her...

I wont feel any twinge of guilt if Maddie is as found I dont see why I should.....I think I would be quite happy.Afaiac the winow and shutters were opened from the outside but doesnt mean Maddie was taken through the window

[Vertigo Swirl]

People really don’t like to be shown up as wrong, especially if they’ve invested years and years in telling people om the internet that they are right and that Madeleine’s parents covered up her death.  Therefore if Madeleine turned up alive these people would undoubtedly feel very foolish, go silent for a few days and then re-emerge with their own unique twist on developments which would have been devised to help them save face.  Seen it happen many times before throughout this case at various stages.

[Brietta]

People really don’t like to be shown up as wrong, especially if they’ve invested years and years in telling people om the internet that they are right and that Madeleine’s parents covered up her death.  Therefore if Madeleine turned up alive these people would undoubtedly feel very foolish, go silent for a few days and then re-emerge with their own unique twist on developments which would have been devised to help them save face.  Seen it happen many times before throughout this case at various stages.

I think it is all geared up already and the contingency plans are already shaping up to be immediately put in place for the eventuality that Madeleine is found.

There are places where the truth doesn't matter ... never did matter ... and for the ringmasters of the opinion shaping internet blogs and terrestrial TV ... it never will matter because it seems they have a story to tell and the truth is never going to get in the way of that.

Incredibly the lies were still being punted in 2019 on main stream CMTV Portuguese television ... not as mistakes or misunderstandings but unashamedly as "imprecision" ...

• Amaral is still punting his theory of sedation
• the manipulation of public opinion with the constant slant favouring Madeleine's parents guilt is promoted
• Operation Grange started in 2010
• madeleine had been written recently (to atone for guilt?)
• that the dogs arrived only after Madeleine's parents had left Portugal
• there was cadaver odour in Madeleine's bedroom
• replaying the video images of the dogs with subliminal repeated interjection of "cadaver" just in case the audience weren't getting the message

According to this blogger it seems there is no intent to mislead but that the 'inaccuracies' are due to 'the erosion of time.'

If Madeleine was to be found tomorrow ... and I rather think that going by this propaganda going out in 2019 there are those in Portugal who think it is a real possibility that she will be found or if not, what happened to her might be discovered.
If not ... why give a public TV platform to continue promoting and condoning fallacies some trivial and some not so.

[The General]

I think it is all geared up already and the contingency plans are already shaping up to be immediately put in place for the eventuality that Madeleine is found.

There are places where the truth doesn't matter ... never did matter ... and for the ringmasters of the opinion shaping internet blogs and terrestrial TV ... it never will matter because it seems they have a story to tell and the truth is never going to get in the way of that.

Incredibly the lies were still being punted in 2019 on main stream CMTV Portuguese television ... not as mistakes or misunderstandings but unashamedly as "imprecision" ...

• Amaral is still punting his theory of sedation
• the manipulation of public opinion with the constant slant favouring Madeleine's parents guilt is promoted
• Operation Grange started in 2010
• madeleine had been written recently (to atone for guilt?)
• that the dogs arrived only after Madeleine's parents had left Portugal
• there was cadaver odour in Madeleine's bedroom
• replaying the video images of the dogs with subliminal repeated interjection of "cadaver" just in case the audience weren't getting the message

According to this blogger it seems there is no intent to mislead but that the 'inaccuracies' are due to 'the erosion of time.'

If Madeleine was to be found tomorrow ... and I rather think that going by this propaganda going out in 2019 there are those in Portugal who think it is a real possibility that she will be found or if not, what happened to her might be discovered.
If not ... why give a public TV platform to continue promoting and condoning fallacies some trivial and some not so.

Can't see any lies there. Have you contacted the blogger in question? No, of course not.

[Mr Gray]

Can't see any lies there. Have you contacted the blogger in question? No, of course not.

The lie is the stating as a fact that there was cadaver odour in the bedroom

[Eleanor]

I've already written it, many moons ago.  It's not difficult to guess what sceptics will say.

[The General]

The lie is the stating as a fact that there was cadaver odour in the bedroom

How do you know it's a lie? It could be true, or it could be a mistake too.
You think it's a lie.

[Mr Gray]

How do you know it's a lie? It could be true, or it could be a mistake too.
You think it's a lie.

It's a lie to state it is a fact...it is not a fact..do you understand that?

[The General]

It's a lie to state it is a fact...it is not a fact..do you understand that?

They think it's a fact. So it's not a lie.
You've stated that their statement is a lie. That's an opinion, not a fact, but you didn't lie.

[Mr Gray]

They think it's a fact. SO it's not a lie.
You've stated that their statement is a lie. That's an opinion, not a fact, but you didn't lie.

They are promoting lies..they might not realise it but they are..