When Madeleine is Found.

[Mr Gray]

Well actually Kizzy,  it was revealed in their first interview that they didn't actually do any searching that night when no one was around as Kate tells the interviewer. Kate later claimed that in her book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k76X53yfONY

FF to 13:15   for those who don't like to be reminded. and for those new to these interviews  start at the begining...

i think you need to listen to it again...thats not at all what she says...you are totally misinformed like many others..

[Miss Taken Identity]

i think you need to listen to it again...thats not at all what she says...you are totally misinformed like many others..

From the horses mouth a question was asked.

"did you as a mother did you sometimes think I just want to be out there ,just hope to go and just physically look as well"?

Reply: Kate long pause… I mean I did  erm  long pause we had been working really hard -the first 48 hours were incredibly difficult- we were almost non functioning

She went on  to deflect -to tell about the loads of support blah blah


So what was the reply?  she said she did think about it, but  they had been working really hard and they were almost non functioning.

 The answer should have been made clearer- is NO we didn't go out and search if  we had I would have said Yes we did go out and search.

Which was a different story they told their 'family to tell the media' on that night they were' working really hard '
  they were out searching on their own and the police were not doing anything.

[John]

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[Mr Gray]

From the horses mouth a question was asked.

"did you as a mother did you sometimes think I just want to be out there ,just hope to go and just physically look as well"?

Reply: Kate long pause… I mean I did  erm  long pause we had been working really hard -the first 48 hours were incredibly difficult- we were almost non functioning

She went on  to deflect -to tell about the loads of support blah blah


So what was the reply?  she said she did think about it, but  they had been working really hard and they were almost non functioning.

 The answer should have been made clearer- is NO we didn't go out and search if  we had I would have said Yes we did go out and search.

Which was a different story they told their 'family to tell the media' on that night they were' working really hard '
  they were out searching on their own and the police were not doing anything.

if you listen she doesnt talk about searching on the morning of the 4th....shes talking about after that. To say they never searched isnt true....kate describes what happenend in her book. they searched when it was possible they might find  a live maddie....I don't see why the would search after that

[The General]

if you listen she doesnt talk about searching on the morning of the 4th....shes talking about after that. To say they never searched isnt true....kate describes what happenend in her book. they searched when it was possible they might find  a live maddie....I don't see why the would search after that

I do. How about an incalculable, all consuming maternal dread and fear, the likes of which none of us who hadn't experienced the same could never possibly begin to understand?

[Mr Gray]

I do. How about an incalculable, all consuming maternal dread and fear, the likes of which none of us who hadn't experienced the same could never possibly begin to understand?

You do.....I don't. .....i don't see any reason why the should or would want to search after teh 3/4th. It was clear by then if they did find Maddie she would be dead......best left to others

[The General]

You do.....I don't. .....i don't see any reason why the should or would want to search after teh 3/4th. It was clear by then if they did find Maddie she would be dead......best left to others

Well that's patently untrue, as that clearly hasn't transpired. So at the very least they were wrong, so they should have taken a different course of action, one of which may have been continuing to search. Whether that would have made any difference, in the context of that time and space, is irrelevant. At that moment she is very much alive. They apparently still think she's alive.
Besides, the concept that 'she's probably dead now', is not a valid excuse to stop searching - not for a mother.

[Mr Gray]

Well that's patently untrue, as that clearly hasn't transpired. So at the very least they were wrong, so they should have taken a different course of action, one of which may have been continuing to search. Whether that would have made any difference, in the context of that time and space, is irrelevant. At that moment she is very much alive. They apparently still think she's alive.
Besides, the concept that 'she's probably dead now', is not a valid excuse to stop searching - not for a mother.

I dont think for a minute the mccanns think maddie is still alive.......thats another fallacy imo. afaiac they think she may be alive .....again I don't see anything unnatuaral in teh McCAnns not searching. its just another of the many sticks to beat them with imo

[The General]

I dont think for a minute the mccanns think maddie is still alive.......thats another fallacy imo. afaiac they think she may be alive .....again I don't see anything unnatuaral in teh McCAnns not searching. its just another of the many sticks to beat them with imo

It's no fallacy, they keep saying it. So maybe they're lying?
I don't care abut your collectivisms. It's no stick, for me, as an individual, it's an incongruence. What should 'searching' look like? I don't know, but I also don't think it looks like that first few days.
What's comparable? I dunno, try getting between a brown bear and her cubs.

[Mr Gray]

It's no fallacy, they keep saying it. So maybe they're lying?
I don't care abut your collectivisms. It's no stick, for me, as an individual, it's an incongruence. What should 'searching' look like? I don't know, but I also don't think it looks like that first few days.
What's comparable? I dunno, try getting between a brown bear and her cubs.

it is a fallacy...we hear and read snippetts. From what ive heard they think its  a possibility not a certainty

[The General]

it is a fallacy...we hear and read snippetts. From what ive heard they think its  a possibility not a certainty

"We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
McCann Facebook page May 2019

...pretty unequivocal.

[Mr Gray]

"We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
McCann Facebook page May 2019

...pretty unequivocal.

sounds like a message of hope...is that the best you can do

[The General]

sounds like a message of hope...is that the best you can do

Nooooo, there's loads of these apparent messages of hope.
Do I think they're genuine? No. I agree with that.
So they're not messages of hope, they're misleading the (gullible or sensitive or both) public.

[Vertigo Swirl]

"We love you and we’re waiting for you and we’re never going to give up.”
McCann Facebook page May 2019

...pretty unequivocal.

So they simultaneously think she’s alive and know she’s dead then, as far as you’re concerned?

[The General]

So they simultaneously think she’s alive and know she’s dead then, as far as you’re concerned?

Ahh, good evening. Welcome to the discussion.
You've, once again, palpably missed the point.
You never unravel the concept. Always reactionary.
Davel is supposing that the McCann's think their daughter is dead. I agree. But that's not what they're saying. So I supported my assertion with an example of their assertion that 'they're waiting for her'. So there's another incongruence there, in addition to the 'searching but not searching' one. Davel believes that us filthy sceptics are just using this concept as a device with which to pummel the McCann's. They're stating the opposite of what they know.