The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent.

[Mr Gray]

The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent

[kizzy]

The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent

IMO I think Goncalo Amaral came to a sensible conclusion at that time in the investigation.

As he has said numerous times, the investigation was not allowed to run it's course and test certain theories to the end. His hypothesis may have changed had other information come to light.

How is that so hard to understand?  I think he was close with his theory and allowed to carry on his investigation unhindered, would have uncovered more detail of what happened.

[G-Unit]

The mccanns have never claimed to have been declared innocent

Their lawyer claimed it on their behalf.

[Mr Gray]

Their lawyer claimed it on their behalf.

Cite..I don't think you've ever given one

[Mr Gray]

Their lawyer claimed it on their behalf.

No she did not... Try sticking to the truth... The lawyer never claimed the mccanns had been declared innocent

[G-Unit]

No she did not... Try sticking to the truth... The lawyer never claimed the mccanns had been declared innocent

I have been over this with you before and provided the evidence of what was claimed. It wasn't accepted by you then, so why would I bother repeating myself? If you wish to re-read it it's all on this thread;
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8465.0

[Mr Gray]

I have been over this with you before and provided the evidence of what was claimed. It wasn't accepted by you then, so why would I bother repeating myself? If you wish to re-read it it's all on this thread;
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8465.0

You were not able to provide, a quote then.. And you can't now... The lawyer never claimed the mccanns had been declared innocent... What you are claiming isn't true

[Brietta]

I have been over this with you before and provided the evidence of what was claimed. It wasn't accepted by you then, so why would I bother repeating myself? If you wish to re-read it it's all on this thread;
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8465.0

That is just a wee bit unrealistic to ask anyone to search through a thread consisting of 239 pages to back up your allegation for you.

You made the allegation; you have been asked for a cite; please supply one.  Thank you.

[misty]

You were not able to provide, a quote then.. And you can't now... The lawyer never claimed the mccanns had been declared innocent... What you are claiming isn't true

The lawyer did - it was in the appeal process.
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[Vertigo Swirl]

The lawyer did - it was in the appeal process.
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No, that is their lawyer claiming they are innocent (as you would expect any lawyer on your side to do in such circs), not that they have been declared innocent by any court.

[Mr Gray]

The lawyer did - it was in the appeal process.
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Thanks.....as VS pointed out this is their lawyer claiming they re innocent...which is quite normal...not that they were declared innocent...gunit has failed to provide a cite and has been shown to be wrong.
What gunit may be referring to is the claim that the archiving despatch was evidence of innocence...which of course it is...evidence but not proof

[G-Unit]

Thanks.....as VS pointed out this is their lawyer claiming they re innocent...which is quite normal...not that they were declared innocent...gunit has failed to provide a cite and has been shown to be wrong.
What gunit may be referring to is the claim that the archiving despatch was evidence of innocence...which of course it is...evidence but not proof

The McCann's lawyer argued that the archiving was a legal decision comparable to an acquittal as in the case of Allen v United Kingdom. They said;

As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance...the filing order uttered according to article 277-1 of the CPP, after the deadline of article 278 (10) of the same legal compendium, is res judicata
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

No proof of the McCanns innocence was gathered, and an archiving dispatch is not a decision equal to an acquittal. An archiving isn't a trial, so it isn't res judicata, which means 'a matter already judged'.

[Mr Gray]

The McCann's lawyer argued that the archiving was a legal decision comparable to an acquittal as in the case of Allen v United Kingdom. They said;

As far as the appellants are aware of, the archiving at stake was carried out, in the course of the investigation, because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance...the filing order uttered according to article 277-1 of the CPP, after the deadline of article 278 (10) of the same legal compendium, is res judicata
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Annulment_request.htm

No proof of the McCanns innocence was gathered, and an archiving dispatch is not a decision equal to an acquittal. An archiving isn't a trial, so it isn't res judicata, which means 'a matter already judged'.

You claimed the McCann's lawyer claimed they had been declared innocent...that is not true ..even an acquittal is not a declaration of innocence.
There is no claim to a declaration of innocence..have the decency to admit you are wrong and stop twisting the facts

[G-Unit]

That is just a wee bit unrealistic to ask anyone to search through a thread consisting of 239 pages to back up your allegation for you.

You made the allegation; you have been asked for a cite; please supply one.  Thank you.

Thank you for reminding me of the rules. Perhaps you would like to enforce them in every case, not just in mine?

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Please provide a link to the actual report so I can read it and see if I can come round to your beliefs about dog alert evidence...

That report, any luck?

Er, the report?

THE REPLY;

What's the point... I could make a FOi request.... I could email Cassella... Why should I bother... I know the truth.. You and your views, are just not important
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11244.75

[G-Unit]

You claimed the McCann's lawyer claimed they had been declared innocent...that is not true ..even an acquittal is not a declaration of innocence.
There is no claim to a declaration of innocence..have the decency to admit you are wrong and stop twisting the facts

Read it again;

"because sufficient proof had been gathered that the then arguidos did not commit any facts of a criminal relevance"

That's a posh way of saying that the investigation had PROOF that the arguidos committed no crime. If it's proved someone didn't commit a crime they are clearly innocent.