Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.

[Mr Gray]

We will never know what GA could have achieved - but what he had was an open mind and several scenarios.

What he did wrong was criticized SY [justified imo] - six months on the job.

How long as SY been on it 7 years - what have they got no open mind just abduction.

Where have they got with that - no were absolutely no were. only involved in on scandal or another imo.

Do you understand what amaral claimed he could prove...the only thing he proved was he didn't understand bthe evidence...that is fact...not opinion

[kizzy]

Do you understand what amaral claimed he could prove...the only thing he proved was he didn't understand bthe evidence...that is fact...not opinion

What evidence the evidence that doesn't add up - some a lot more in the know than you seem to have a different opinion.


McCanns evidence 'doesn't add up'
A team of British crime specialists who have scrutinised the Madeleine McCann case claim there are inconsistencies in her parents' version of events.




Prof Barclay, 62, added: "There has been a tendency to criticise the Portuguese police but on the whole they did a pretty good job.

"However, they made two big mistakes. Firstly, they did not seal of the crime scene anywhere nearly quick enough. Secondly, in my opinion they were not aggressive enough with the McCanns in the first stage of the investigation.

"It is actually for the parents' benefit in cases like this that the police tackle them robustly and demand a comprehensive account of their movements during the relevant timeframe."

[Mr Gray]

What evidence the evidence that doesn't add up - some a lot more in the know than you seem to have a different opinion.


McCanns evidence 'doesn't add up'
A team of British crime specialists who have scrutinised the Madeleine McCann case claim there are inconsistencies in her parents' version of events.




Prof Barclay, 62, added: "There has been a tendency to criticise the Portuguese police but on the whole they did a pretty good job.

"However, they made two big mistakes. Firstly, they did not seal of the crime scene anywhere nearly quick enough. Secondly, in my opinion they were not aggressive enough with the McCanns in the first stage of the investigation.

"It is actually for the parents' benefit in cases like this that the police tackle them robustly and demand a comprehensive account of their movements during the relevant timeframe."

Quite simple...the alerts do not prove the past presence of a cadaver...it's as simple as that. I'm not concerned what other posters or amaral think..

And the alerts do not confirm cadaver odour ...that's a fact that sceptics won't accept. There is no proof Maddie died in the apartment as amaral claimed

[Brietta]

What evidence the evidence that doesn't add up - some a lot more in the know than you seem to have a different opinion.


McCanns evidence 'doesn't add up'
A team of British crime specialists who have scrutinised the Madeleine McCann case claim there are inconsistencies in her parents' version of events.




Prof Barclay, 62, added: "There has been a tendency to criticise the Portuguese police but on the whole they did a pretty good job.

"However, they made two big mistakes. Firstly, they did not seal of the crime scene anywhere nearly quick enough. Secondly, in my opinion they were not aggressive enough with the McCanns in the first stage of the investigation.

"It is actually for the parents' benefit in cases like this that the police tackle them robustly and demand a comprehensive account of their movements during the relevant timeframe."

You appear to be floundering under the misapprehension that the evidence "did not add up" for the Amaral investigation whilst being in ignorance of the elementary misinterpretation of the evidence they did have (eg the dogs) and the evidence they did not bother to investigate.

One of the first diligences performed by Rebelo after Amaral was sacked from the case was making the effort to identify the source of a DNA profile.

Why didn't Amaral do that?

[barrier]

Please bear in mind that Amaral was sacked from the investigation which precipitately made Kate and Gerry McCann arguidos without a shred of corroborating evidence to back that decision up.

Paulo Rebelo who took over the case immediately had to take over Madeleine's case from scratch.  Amazingly having to take on checking elementary diligences the results of which should already have been known. For example the necessity of obtaining a court order to check the CCTV images of vehicles entering and leaving Luz at the relevant time.
As well as asking for checks to be made on an unidentified DNA sample from 3rd May which quite obviously hadn't already been previously investigated.  https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO_REBELO.htm

That Paulo Rebelo's investigation had to attempt to play catch up in this way so long after the event when the precious golden hours of the disappearance of a child had been squandered by Amaral's investigation highlights either incompetence or corruption.  Take your pick.

Rebelo's investigation was competent and thorough ... in my opinion tied up all the loose ends he inherited and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it was to the work of this respected officer to which Rowley referred, not the very bad joke that is Amaral.

CCTV identifies vehicles not who is them,considering there's been no reports of vehicles and their number plates on the night in question,the relevance is?

[Brietta]

CCTV identifies vehicles not who is them,considering there's been no reports of vehicles and their number plates on the night in question,the relevance is?

Isn't it normal practice for police investigating officers to check out vehicle movements using CCTV when a crime has been committed.  In particular when a child is missing.

Rebelo certainly thought so.  Just as he thought it a jolly good idea to check out unidentified DNA samples with any outside agencies he was able to access.

Amaral certainly didn't appear to be 'big' on following evidence to solve a case and what indications he did follow up on were beyond his comprehension as soon became patently obvious to anyone with the slightest understanding of forensics.

[ShiningInLuz]

Isn't it normal practice for police investigating officers to check out vehicle movements using CCTV when a crime has been committed.  In particular when a child is missing.

Rebelo certainly thought so.  Just as he thought it a jolly good idea to check out unidentified DNA samples with any outside agencies he was able to access.

Amaral certainly didn't appear to be 'big' on following evidence to solve a case and what indications he did follow up on were beyond his comprehension as soon became patently obvious to anyone with the slightest understanding of forensics.

What CCTV?   

[Mr Gray]

What CCTV?   

was there not  a report that amaral failed to check a CCTV camera ......and that by the time he did it had been wiped clear

[ShiningInLuz]

was there not  a report that amaral failed to check a CCTV camera ......and that by the time he did it had been wiped clear

Do you think that Rebelo checked out CCTV months after Amaral said the CCTV had been overwritten?

Or that the Estrela CCTV showed vehicle movements?

 

What CCTV?

[Mr Gray]

Do you think that Rebelo checked out CCTV months after Amaral said the CCTV had been overwritten?

Or that the Estrela CCTV showed vehicle movements?

 

What CCTV?

You asked what CCTV...I've answered...the one amaral was photographed in front of...it's on this forum

[Brietta]

What CCTV?   

You appear to have studiously ignored the link I have provided.  It reads as follows ...


Policia Judiciaria

Fax

Date: 20-11-2007

To: Euroscut Algarve

From: Paulo Rebelo, Portimao DIC


Ref: 201.07.0GALGS


Subject: Request for Information


Within the context of the investigation mentioned above into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and following the telephone contact made by officers of this police force on the 4th May 2007 with the Traffic Controller of Euroscut Algarve, Rui Afonso, I request your collaboration as quickly as possible, with relation to the security cameras existing on the A22 VIA DO INFANTE motorway, if there are video recordings of these, especially concerning the time period between 21.00 on 3rd May 2007 and 07.00 of the following day, with respect to the stretch of the A22 between Lagos and the border with Spain of V.R.S ANTONIO and in the affirmative case, their preservation and delivery in digital format to this Police department is requested.


With compliments,

The Superior Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation
Paulo Rebelo

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO_REBELO.htm

_______________________________________________________________________

 Bump
Please bear in mind that Amaral was sacked from the investigation which precipitately made Kate and Gerry McCann arguidos without a shred of corroborating evidence to back that decision up.

Paulo Rebelo who took over the case immediately had to take over Madeleine's case from scratch.  Amazingly having to take on checking elementary diligences the results of which should already have been known.  For example the necessity of obtaining a court order to check the CCTV images of vehicles entering and leaving Luz at the relevant time.
As well as asking for checks to be made on an unidentified DNA sample from 3rd May which quite obviously hadn't already been previously investigated.  https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO_REBELO.htm

That Paulo Rebelo's investigation had to attempt to play catch up in this way so long after the event when the precious golden hours of the disappearance of a child had been squandered by Amaral's investigation highlights either incompetence or corruption.  Take your pick.

Rebelo's investigation was competent and thorough ... in my opinion tied up all the loose ends he inherited and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it was to the work of this respected officer to which Rowley referred, not the very bad joke that is Amaral.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11288.msg578120#msg578120

[Brietta]

You asked what CCTV...I've answered...the one amaral was photographed in front of...it's on this forum

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3519.msg177127#msg177127

[ShiningInLuz]

You appear to have studiously ignored the link I have provided.  It reads as follows ...


Policia Judiciaria

Fax

Date: 20-11-2007

To: Euroscut Algarve

From: Paulo Rebelo, Portimao DIC


Ref: 201.07.0GALGS


Subject: Request for Information


Within the context of the investigation mentioned above into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and following the telephone contact made by officers of this police force on the 4th May 2007 with the Traffic Controller of Euroscut Algarve, Rui Afonso, I request your collaboration as quickly as possible, with relation to the security cameras existing on the A22 VIA DO INFANTE motorway, if there are video recordings of these, especially concerning the time period between 21.00 on 3rd May 2007 and 07.00 of the following day, with respect to the stretch of the A22 between Lagos and the border with Spain of V.R.S ANTONIO and in the affirmative case, their preservation and delivery in digital format to this Police department is requested.


With compliments,

The Superior Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation
Paulo Rebelo

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO_REBELO.htm

_______________________________________________________________________

 Bump
Please bear in mind that Amaral was sacked from the investigation which precipitately made Kate and Gerry McCann arguidos without a shred of corroborating evidence to back that decision up.

Paulo Rebelo who took over the case immediately had to take over Madeleine's case from scratch.  Amazingly having to take on checking elementary diligences the results of which should already have been known.  For example the necessity of obtaining a court order to check the CCTV images of vehicles entering and leaving Luz at the relevant time.
As well as asking for checks to be made on an unidentified DNA sample from 3rd May which quite obviously hadn't already been previously investigated.  https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO_REBELO.htm

That Paulo Rebelo's investigation had to attempt to play catch up in this way so long after the event when the precious golden hours of the disappearance of a child had been squandered by Amaral's investigation highlights either incompetence or corruption.  Take your pick.

Rebelo's investigation was competent and thorough ... in my opinion tied up all the loose ends he inherited and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it was to the work of this respected officer to which Rowley referred, not the very bad joke that is Amaral.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11288.msg578120#msg578120

I haven't 'studiously ignored' anything. 

The A22 does not enter or exit Luz.

AFAIK, there was no need for CCTV on the A22 in 2007.  That came when the A22 changed to being a toll road.

Did Mr Rebelo gain anything from this diligence?

[Brietta]

I haven't 'studiously ignored' anything. 

The A22 does not enter or exit Luz.

AFAIK, there was no need for CCTV on the A22 in 2007.  That came when the A22 changed to being a toll road.

Did Mr Rebelo gain anything from this diligence?

Do you imagine that ignoring the necessity to gather evidence is conducive to solving crime.

[ShiningInLuz]

Do you imagine that ignoring the necessity to gather evidence is conducive to solving crime.

Gathering evidence of what?  Non-existent CCTV on a route not near to Luz?

Perhaps Rebelo should have requested CCTV on the A1 from Lisbon to Porto, always assuming there was CCTV on the A1 in 2007.

Reality check time.