The shootings in the master bedroom.

[APRIL]

If there's a new cartridge already in the breach waiting to be fired, then there is no need to cock the bolt (with attached firing pin) and trigger again after inserting a freshly-loaded magazine.   If there's no cartridge at all in the breach, then you have to cock the trigger manually, like this chap is doing at the beginning of the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNrlfDPC_xs

None of which sounds as if it can be absorbed easily by anyone who isn't gun savvy.

[G-Unit]

If there's a new cartridge already in the breach waiting to be fired, then there is no need to cock the bolt (with attached firing pin) and trigger again after inserting a freshly-loaded magazine.   If there's no cartridge at all in the breach, then you have to cock the trigger manually, like this chap is doing at the beginning of the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNrlfDPC_xs

I see. Not the recommended method of proceeding as the gun should be empty before attaching the magazine, but it's possible. My only comment is to wonder if Bamber knew this was possible as he was no expert as far as I know.

[Myster]

None of which sounds as if it can be absorbed easily by anyone who isn't gun savvy.

This might illustrate the action better.  It isn't an Anschutz and there's no magazine shown, but the principle is the same.  The combined bolt and firing pin are pulled back to cock the trigger, the cartridge being loaded automatically into the breech (correct spelling this time) by a spring in the magazine.  Pulling the trigger causes the firing pin to strike the brass casing and ignite the explosive mixture within it, which then propels the lead bullet forward at high speed.  In an Anschutz, the explosion also causes the now empty brass casing and bolt to shoot backwards and reset the trigger ready for another shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKa4OQBejKQ

[Caroline]

I see. Not the recommended method of proceeding as the gun should be empty before attaching the magazine, but it's possible. My only comment is to wonder if Bamber knew this was possible as he was no expert as far as I know.

Bamber did know, he talks about removing the magazine and the bullet in the breach. Not sure where you got the notion that Bamber was a gun novice - that's far from true and he had had that particular rifle for about 9/10 months.

[Myster]

I see. Not the recommended method of proceeding as the gun should be empty before attaching the magazine, but it's possible. My only comment is to wonder if Bamber knew this was possible as he was no expert as far as I know.

He certainly would know, after training whilst at Gresham's, using the rifle to shoot vermin around the farm, and target practice with Anthony Pargeter.  Although the rifle was almost new, he was no stranger to how it operated.

[APRIL]

He certainly would know, after training whilst at Gresham's, using the rifle to shoot vermin around the farm, and target practice with Anthony Pargeter.  Although the rifle was almost new, he was no stranger to how it operated.

He was also at shoots with his father. I don't imagine he was a beater.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

So you think the perp took a full magazine upstairs plus one extra bullet?

Why do you keep calling the convicted mass murderer, Jeremy Bamber “the perp”?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I see. Not the recommended method of proceeding as the gun should be empty before attaching the magazine, but it's possible. My only comment is to wonder if Bamber knew this was possible as he was no expert as far as I know.

Do you mean to say you never knew Jeremy Bamber was experienced with guns????!

There’s photos of him holding them when he was a young teen!

He went shooting at school, too

And he frequently shot in the farm...and showed great interest in guns; even going with Nevill to buy the rifle he eventually used to slay his family. In fact, it’s alleged that HE encouraged Nevill to buy that particular rifle as it was ideal for what he had in mind....

I’m flabbergasted you seem clueless about Jeremy’s shooting experience — you post as though you know everything about him 

[mrswah]

I agree that (from what I've read), Jeremy Bamber was experienced with guns and knew exactly how to use them.

I also understand that he did go with Nevill to buy the rifle used in the murders. However, AFAIK, there is no evidence that, at that point, he had planned to use it to murder his family.

[APRIL]

I agree that (from what I've read), Jeremy Bamber was experienced with guns and knew exactly how to use them.

I also understand that he did go with Nevill to buy the rifle used in the murders. However, AFAIK, there is no evidence that, at that point, he had planned to use it to murder his family.

But it seems he already had murder in mind. The method may not have been decided.

[G-Unit]

Bamber did know, he talks about removing the magazine and the bullet in the breach. Not sure where you got the notion that Bamber was a gun novice - that's far from true and he had had that particular rifle for about 9/10 months.

Wasn't he describing unloading? He followed the correct procedure; remove the magazine then clear the one remaining cartridge from the breech. He put it back into the magazine. That doesn't mean he knew that he could leave that cartridge in there and add a full magazine too.

[G-Unit]

He was also at shoots with his father. I don't imagine he was a beater.

Shoots normally involve shotguns, not rifles.

[APRIL]

Wasn't he describing unloading? He followed the correct procedure; remove the magazine then clear the one remaining cartridge from the breech. He put it back into the magazine. That doesn't mean he knew that he could leave that cartridge in there and add a full magazine too.

You make it sound as if he was a rank amateur. He went with Nevill to buy the weapon at Radcliffe's, a family gunsmith of high renown, still in business today. I feel certain they'd have gone through the workings very thoroughly, and I have no doubt that they wouldn't have left until Nevill had satisfied himself that Jeremy understood them fully. I think Jeremy would have been keen to demonstrate his prowess.

[G-Unit]

He certainly would know, after training whilst at Gresham's, using the rifle to shoot vermin around the farm, and target practice with Anthony Pargeter.  Although the rifle was almost new, he was no stranger to how it operated.

I doubt anyone would be trained to overload a gun, which is what is being described. He and Pargeter shot ten shots each at a brick according to CAL. That's a magazine each.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I doubt anyone would be trained to overload a gun, which is what is being described. He and Pargeter shot ten shots each at a brick according to CAL. That's a magazine each.

The simple fact is you dont know and cannot ever know whether or not Jeremy knew how to overload the gun.  You can doubt all you like,  your opinion really has no weight as you have no meaningful evidence upon which to base it.