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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #270 on: April 09, 2020, 07:05:53 PM »
Sorry APRIL-I may be reading this wrong.
Who is RWB? and what is the resentment being harbored?

Re: boarding-  are you saying the adopted child went full boarding (even though they lived down the road) and biological children went home every evening?

Robert Boutflour, father to Ann and David and Jeremy and Sheila's unc.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #271 on: April 09, 2020, 07:06:31 PM »
Sorry APRIL-I may be reading this wrong.
Who is RWB? and what is the resentment being harbored?

Re: boarding-  are you saying the adopted child went full boarding (even though they lived down the road) and biological children went home every evening?


Sorry! That would be Robert Woodwiss Boutflour, aka Uncle Bobbie, bro in law to Nevill through his marriage with June's older sister, and possibly hoping that the at one time childless Bambers' money would find it's way to his branch of the family.l Jeremy was his bete noir.

Yes! The adopted child had to board, whilst her siblings -biological and younger children of their parents- went home every evening. She claimed her mother beat her with a riding crop/leather belt. Of course, back then, no one believed any child, less still, an adopted child.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #272 on: April 09, 2020, 07:20:34 PM »

Sorry! That would be Robert Woodwiss Boutflour, aka Uncle Bobbie, bro in law to Nevill through his marriage with June's older sister, and possibly hoping that the at one time childless Bambers' money would find it's way to his branch of the family.l Jeremy was his bete noir.

Yes! The adopted child had to board, whilst her siblings -biological and younger children of their parents- went home every evening. She claimed her mother beat her with a riding crop/leather belt. Of course, back then, no one believed any child, less still, an adopted child.

Jeremy called him Uncle Flunky. Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #273 on: April 09, 2020, 07:25:23 PM »

Sorry! That would be Robert Woodwiss Boutflour, aka Uncle Bobbie, bro in law to Nevill through his marriage with June's older sister, and possibly hoping that the at one time childless Bambers' money would find it's way to his branch of the family.l Jeremy was his bete noir.

Yes! The adopted child had to board, whilst her siblings -biological and younger children of their parents- went home every evening. She claimed her mother beat her with a riding crop/leather belt. Of course, back then, no one believed any child, less still, an adopted child.

Sorry, I'm lost now!  Who claimed her mother beat her?

And, you are saying that RWB didn't like Jeremy? (and I do realise that this doesn't necessarily mean that JB didn't commit the murders!).

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #274 on: April 09, 2020, 07:29:00 PM »
Sorry, I'm lost now!  Who claimed her mother beat her?

And, you are saying that RWB didn't like Jeremy? (and I do realise that this doesn't necessarily mean that JB didn't commit the murders!).


The adopted child I was at school with.

Yes! There was no love lost between Uncle Bobbie and Jeremy. I imagine he'd been resentful of Jeremy from the off.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #275 on: April 09, 2020, 07:46:15 PM »

The adopted child I was at school with.

Yes! There was no love lost between Uncle Bobbie and Jeremy. I imagine he'd been resentful of Jeremy from the off.


I see. That's really sad (about your friend, I mean).

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« Reply #276 on: April 09, 2020, 08:24:11 PM »
Jeremy called him Uncle Flunky. Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder?
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lol flunky. I wonder what that means G.

"Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder"?

opinion of who the uncle or Jeremy?


OK now I see a bit clearer. JB supporters could be claiming Junes family could have set up Jeremy for the inheritance which they thought more rightfully theirs? Hmm plausible argument- until JB blames Sheila and not his Flunky uncle and co.


APRIL "Yes! The adopted child had to board, whilst her siblings -biological and younger children of their parents- went home every evening. She claimed her mother beat her with a riding crop/leather belt. Of course, back then, no one believed any child, less still, an adopted child. "





Indeed who would believe as the adopted child who had fee paying school and all that jazz. Absolutely horrific, and that is why I wondered why would someone adopt a child and send them away? Makes no sense to me.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #277 on: April 09, 2020, 08:42:36 PM »
Jeremy called him Uncle Flunky. Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder?
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Ouch!

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« Reply #278 on: April 09, 2020, 08:47:29 PM »
lol flunky. I wonder what that means G.

"Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder"?

opinion of who the uncle or Jeremy?


OK now I see a bit clearer. JB supporters could be claiming Junes family could have set up Jeremy for the inheritance which they thought more rightfully theirs? Hmm plausible argument- until JB blames Sheila and not his Flunky uncle and co.


APRIL "Yes! The adopted child had to board, whilst her siblings -biological and younger children of their parents- went home every evening. She claimed her mother beat her with a riding crop/leather belt. Of course, back then, no one believed any child, less still, an adopted child. "





Indeed who would believe as the adopted child who had fee paying school and all that jazz. Absolutely horrific, and that is why I wondered why would someone adopt a child and send them away? Makes no sense to me.


Well, in the simple event of a wealthy couple being childless, their wealth, when they die, is likely to be divided amongst the wider family. Enter adopted children and those financial hopes get blown out of the window.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #279 on: April 09, 2020, 08:50:18 PM »

Well, in the simple event of a wealthy couple being childless, their wealth, when they die, is likely to be divided amongst the wider family. Enter adopted children and those financial hopes get blown out of the window.

Was it just Jeremy who wasn't much liked by Neville/June and wide family?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #280 on: April 09, 2020, 09:06:56 PM »
Was it just Jeremy who wasn't much liked by Neville/June and wide family?


Well, regarding the cousins Ann and David, there were age gaps so large that they were generational. There was never likely to be close bonding there. (According to my friend, who knew the Bambers well, whilst all the other mothers would share stories about their children, June never did. I recall my friend saying, with the benefit of hindsight, that she now wonders if June thought they were all to lenient with their children. June have very high standards. Mybe she believed adopted children should behave better than others?)

The cousins had fewer advantages than their Bamber counterparts. State schools, state college, and back to work on the farm. Perhaps RWB thought their rewards would come later. But for the Bamber children, the heir not having the least interest in working the family business, only milking it.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #281 on: April 09, 2020, 09:10:54 PM »

The adopted child I was at school with.

Yes! There was no love lost between Uncle Bobbie and Jeremy. I imagine he'd been resentful of Jeremy from the off.

Interesting about RWB 's feelings towards Jeremy. I was aware of animosity within the wider family, but had thought it was the cousins versus Jeremy. Also interesting that Pamela seems to have kept out of it all.

If some "supporters" exploit this , I cannot honestly blame them.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #282 on: April 09, 2020, 09:15:02 PM »

Well, regarding the cousins Ann and David, there were age gaps so large that they were generational. There was never likely to be close bonding there. (According to my friend, who knew the Bambers well, whilst all the other mothers would share stories about their children, June never did. I recall my friend saying, with the benefit of hindsight, that she now wonders if June thought they were all to lenient with their children. June have very high standards. Mybe she believed adopted children should behave better than others?)

The cousins had fewer advantages than their Bamber counterparts. State schools, state college, and back to work on the farm. Perhaps RWB thought their rewards would come later. But for the Bamber children, the heir not having the least interest in working the family business, only milking it.

Did Jeremy and Sheila think they had advantages, though?  They might have been much happier going to the local state school and thereby making friends locally. Jeremy wasn't happy at boarding school; not sure about Sheila.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #283 on: April 09, 2020, 09:28:01 PM »
Jeremy called him Uncle Flunky. Did that reflect Nevill's opinion of him, I wonder?
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He called him worse than that to me.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #284 on: April 09, 2020, 09:42:06 PM »
Did Jeremy and Sheila think they had advantages, though?  They might have been much happier going to the local state school and thereby making friends locally. Jeremy wasn't happy at boarding school; not sure about Sheila.


It's rarely about how the children feel. Their opinions are rarely asked. it's always about how others perceive them. ie They're so lucky. They've had everything. Look at all the money they've had thrown at them