Is there any evidence which implicates Sheila?

[Caroline]

If you've read my back posts and found no evidence to contradict the official verdict then what would be the point in going through it again?

Holly, you have never posted any evidence to show Sheila was the perp, no one has because there isn't any.

[Caroline]

There is no "hard" evidence that Sheila committed the murders, as far as I can see. She was suspected of having done so because :

She was found with a gun lying across her body.

She suffered from a serious mental illness, and there have been cases where people with similar illnesses have killed.

She had, in the past, mentioned suicide.

Of those killed at WHF, Sheila seemed the person most likely to have done it. Jeremy wasn't there, and the doors were locked from the inside.

Of course she was found with the rifle on her body, that's because Bamber put it there. Her hand was rising on the trigger area too. There is a simple experiment you can do yourself that shows this is BS. lay on the floor with your hand in that position, then totally relax and see what happens to. you hand.

Sheila was on medication for there illness and I will issue the same challenge to you as I have to others - find a case of someone taking their medication who committed such an act.

She mentioned suicide, not mass murder - Jeremy mentioned that.

The bathroom window was found to be closed but unlocked and this is the window that Jeremy was known to use.

[APRIL]

Holly, you have never posted any evidence to show Sheila was the perp, no one has because there isn't any.

Interesting observation Caroline. Whilst all Jeremy's supporters claim she did it, none has produced evidence of it.

[mrswah]

Of course she was found with the rifle on her body, that's because Bamber put it there. Her hand was rising on the trigger area too. There is a simple experiment you can do yourself that shows this is BS. lay on the floor with your hand in that position, then totally relax and see what happens to. you hand.

Sheila was on medication for there illness and I will issue the same challenge to you as I have to others - find a case of someone taking their medication who committed such an act.

She mentioned suicide, not mass murder - Jeremy mentioned that.

The bathroom window was found to be closed but unlocked and this is the window that Jeremy was known to use.

I wasn't saying that I believe the points I made are evidence against Sheila, I was pointing out possible  reasons why Sheila was, at first,  suspected ( rather than Nevill , June, or someone from outside).

[APRIL]

I wasn't saying that I believe the points I made are evidence against Sheila, I was pointing out possible  reasons why Sheila was, at first,  suspected ( rather than Nevill , June, or someone from outside).

Which meant that it worked exactly how Jeremy had planned it to. I believe him to have once been a member of his school drama group? As the, one time wife of a stage manager, I'm well schooled in the art of stage suggestion.

[barrier]

Holly, you have never posted any evidence to show Sheila was the perp, no one has because there isn't any.

Once a conviction is reached and upheld,(twice at that,)what can possibly be demonstrated that it was impossible for JB to have carried it out,the onus is very much on that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Interesting observation Caroline. Whilst all Jeremy's supporters claim she did it, none has produced evidence of it.

That is the whole point of this thread.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

When I first joined forums to discuss the case I looked through back threads/posts.  I've started numerous threads and made thousands of posts over years there's nothing preventing you from retrieving these threads/posts to look at my arguments.

I’ve seen some of them, Holly, and in each and every one your arguments that Jeremy is innocent they’ve  been smashed to smithereens in an instant. And by experts too. Lawyers and ballistic experts, for example...they've annihilated your arguments in just one response, explaining to you why you’re wrong. But you still repeat the same old stuff....you’re still saying “we have new evidence”, just like you did six years ago....what became of all that, eh?

You suggest you have new “mysterious” evidence, but can never say what it is...do you seriously expect people to take note of what you say when nothing ever comes of it? According to you six years ago, Jeremy was going to be released within weeks...why didn’t that happen, Holly?

[Caroline]

I’ve seen some of them, Holly, and in each and every one your arguments that Jeremy is innocent they’ve  been smashed to smithereens in an instant. And by experts too. Lawyers and ballistic experts, for example...they've annihilated your arguments in just one response, explaining to you why you’re wrong. But you still repeat the same old stuff....you’re still saying “we have new evidence”, just like you did six years ago....what became of all that, eh?

You suggest you have new “mysterious” evidence, but can never say what it is...do you seriously expect people to take note of what you say when nothing ever comes of it? According to you six years ago, Jeremy was going to be released within weeks...why didn’t that happen, Holly?

To be fair, I don't think she said she has evidence, just that some mystery tests will prove exsisting evidence is flawed. Of course some other expert could find flaws in their arguments too.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Of course she was found with the rifle on her body, that's because Bamber put it there. Her hand was rising on the trigger area too. There is a simple experiment you can do yourself that shows this is BS. lay on the floor with your hand in that position, then totally relax and see what happens to. you hand.

Sheila was on medication for there illness and I will issue the same challenge to you as I have to others - find a case of someone taking their medication who committed such an act.

She mentioned suicide, not mass murder - Jeremy mentioned that.

The bathroom window was found to be closed but unlocked and this is the window that Jeremy was known to use.

A somewhat pointless question , but I’ll ask it all the same...

Were Sheila’s  footprints found in the downstairs bathroom?

Were Sheila’s fingerprints found on the window handle?

Was there any trace of her blood/hair found in the plughole?

Going further...were there any traces of Sheila’s blood found by/in the cupboard where the silencer was found?

Were there any fingerprints of Sheila’s found on the silencer?

Were there any of her hairs found on the silencer?

When the police checked both bathrooms were there any traces of Sheila’s blood found on the tiles, shower tray, bath floor, plughole, taps?

Were any clothes or shoes/slippers found with Sheila’s blood/sugar/glass ingrained?

Were there any fingerprints of Sheila’s on the phone in the kitchen?

Oh, I could go on, and on, and on....but as no mention of any of these were made by the defence it seems there wasn’t any...

Holly, any ideas why this could be? You say you have “mystery evidence”  after 35 years, so maybe you can explain the lack of Sheila’s prints/blood/DNA in the places I mentioned?

[Vertigo Swirl]

A somewhat pointless question , but I’ll ask it all the same...

Were Sheila’s  footprints found in the downstairs bathroom?

Were Sheila’s fingerprints found on the window handle?

Was there any trace of her blood/hair found in the plughole?

Going further...were there any traces of Sheila’s blood found by/in the cupboard where the silencer was found?

Were there any fingerprints of Sheila’s found on the silencer?

Were there any of her hairs found on the silencer?

When the police checked both bathrooms were there any traces of Sheila’s blood found on the tiles, shower tray, bath floor, plughole, taps?

Were any clothes or shoes/slippers found with Sheila’s blood/sugar/glass ingrained?

Were there any fingerprints of Sheila’s on the phone in the kitchen?

Oh, I could go on, and on, and on....but as no mention of any of these were made by the defence it seems there wasn’t any...

Holly, any ideas why this could be? You say you have “mystery evidence”  after 35 years, so maybe you can explain the lack of Sheila’s prints/blood/DNA in the places I mentioned?

Was any of her father’s blood found on her clothing, under her fingernails, etc?  After all they had an almighty scrap, allegedly.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Was any of her father’s blood found on her clothing, under her fingernails, etc?  After all they had an almighty scrap, allegedly.

Nope.

Not a speck.

No blood, skin, hairs — nothing.

Nor did Nevill have any of Sheila’s blood, skin or hair on him.

In a violent struggle hair always comes away (it even comes away not struggling when just sat in a car), and as Sheila had thick dark hair it seems miraculous that not ONE of her hairs was found where the violent struggles took place...

[The General]

Can anyone be arsed walking an ignorant newbie through the definitive steps of the actual act?
Or is there a timeline, step by step, that someone could equally be arsed or not arsed to point me to?
I'm curious as to how he managed 5 people in different rooms and on different floors.

[APRIL]

Can anyone be arsed walking an ignorant newbie through the definitive steps of the actual act?
Or is there a timeline, step by step, that someone could equally be arsed or not arsed to point me to?
I'm curious as to how he managed 5 people in different rooms and on different floors.

Many have tried!!! As we're unlikely ever to know, it's entirely possible that someone has got it right. You're welcome to add your own thoughts. You stand as good a chance, as anyone, of being right.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

To be fair, I don't think she said she has evidence, just that some mystery tests will prove exsisting evidence is flawed. Of course some other expert could find flaws in their arguments too.

Haha...mystery evidence...

If I had concrete evidence that categorically proves someone was innocent, I wouldn’t keep it a mystery

I’d release it so they could be free

It’s all BS