Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?

[mrswah]

For the benefit of the newbies and Myster who never tires of the following.

2 mins in you can observe 'Farm Girl' loading cartridges into the mag to her Bushmaster and then let off a few shots.  Please note her long polished nails.

https://youtu.be/WdAI9j_lDbc

Is this the same sort of magazine the gun used in the murders would have had?

Silly question, I know, but I know nothing at all about guns!

[Holly Goodhead]

You're right. Both would chip, as a minimum, on the index finger, loading that mag twice whilst in the midst of a killing frenzy.

They wouldn't.  I've done all sorts with long polished nails and they don't break and chip all over the place.  The most hazardous thing is not donning the Marigolds when undertaking housework and exposing them to harsh chemicals and prolonged periods in hard water.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes there's a slight chip but that was there before she loaded and fired the weapon.

It’s interesting to note how long it takes to load the cartridges into the gun, quite a slow methodical process.  Can you talk us through at what two points during the killing spree you think Sheila achieved this? 

[Holly Goodhead]

Is this the same sort of magazine the gun used in the murders would have had?

Silly question, I know, but I know nothing at all about guns!

No the magazine and cartridges are about 4 times the size of those used at WHF.  I will find images for you but it might be tomorrow as I get sleepy about now.

[Vertigo Swirl]

They wouldn't.  I've done all sorts with long polished nails and they don't break and chip all over the place.  The most hazardous thing is not donning the Marigolds when undertaking housework and exposing them to harsh chemicals and prolonged periods in hard water.

My nail polish has usually chipped on at least one finger within a day of applying it. 

[The General]

It’s interesting to note how long it takes to load the cartridges into the gun, quite a slow methodical process.  Can you talk us through at what two points during the killing spree you think Sheila achieved this?

What a terrible example. I reckon most of her nails were chipped.
Having said that, I could watch that all day.

[The General]

No the magazine and cartridges are about 4 times the size of those used at WHF.  I will find images for you but it might be tomorrow as I get sleepy about now.

You neglected to answer my question, Holly; how long did it take you to load that .22 mag?

[Caroline]

I was just reading thru some old docs.

From FE:

I have been asked if Sheila had trouble with her muscular coordination.  When she came out of hospital the second time she appeared to have slowed down.  By this she seemed to do things at a much slower pace.  She had no problem with her co-ordination and appeared to be aware of what she was doing.  She had no trouble in picking things up and holding onto them.

OK, so you found a statement in which one person didn't think Sheila seemed uncoordinated and now that means you can dismiss the comments of others who claim she was. This is a bit like how you see the test results that you might supply - finding will just cancel out the past - it doesn't work like that.

[Myster]

Is this the same sort of magazine the gun used in the murders would have had?

Silly question, I know, but I know nothing at all about guns!

This is a similar Anschutz 525 rifle (also known as 470 dependent on where manufactured) and ten-round magazine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THE8i15O_7o

... and a five-round magazine being loaded. Notice how in this case it was more difficult to insert the fifth round because of a spring binding problem.  Perhaps this was what happened when Malcolm Fletcher experienced the same thing with the ten-round magazine, as a result of it being been loaded numerous times in the past...

https://youtu.be/o1RgW9KFqBE?t=519

[ISpyWithMyEye]

As I always thought evidenced by her manicured and polished nails.

There’s a difference between being slow in movement and picking things up, to applying cosmetics carefully. Her friends said that she turned up days before Jeremy Bamber killed her,  and her make-up was all messy where she hadn’t applied it properly. On the actual day/eve of the murders the shopkeeper who sold them jeans for the twins’, said that when Sheila turned and smiled all her teeth were bright red with lipstick. I know lipstick can smudge on your teeth, but only a small amount, which you usually check last thing. As Sheila was conscious about her looking her best, that alone proves she even had trouble applying her lipstick — and was too tranquillised to remember to check for smudges..

So Freddie’s statement doesn’t say anything, really. Just that she was slow in movement. He wasn’t with her 24/7 and he probably witnessed her when she was taking the drug (forgotten the name, I will check) which helped counteract the severe unsteadiness, shaking, trembling the Haloperidol caused...and which she’d run out when she went to WHF when Jeremy Bamber shot her and her two sons dead, along with his parents’.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I've no idea how long you keep your nails and whether or not you polish them  but mine have at times been long and polished and I don't understand why anyone would think what occurred at WHF would cause damage?

The William sisters are famed as much for their tennis as their nails and despite gruelling games they emerge with their long polished nails adorned with art in tact.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Williams+sisters+nails&client=ms-android-huawei-rev1&prmd=minv&sxsrf=ALeKk038E6YUfLae2MJL-TTVk3ZFIPEwPA:1586725226871&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi1zIOM5OPoAhUJZMAKHWnXARUQ_AUoAnoECAwQAw&biw=360&bih=655&dpr=2

The Williams’ have acrylic nails, Holly, which are almost unbreakable and never chip.

They’re really keen on nail art — they discussed it somewhere.

Maybe you’ve never had acrylics, but I have and still do (not nail art though😙) and they are almost unbreakable — I’m sure you know that.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Much as I admire the Williams sisters, particularly Serena, who, in my opinion, is one of the greatest athletes of all time, a couple of sets of tennis is hardly comparable.

I’ve never broken a nail playing tennis....

Either my natural ones when long, or acrylics....

[ISpyWithMyEye]

In what way do you think the bio-mechanical movement of wielding the rifle to inflict blows on NB is not comparable with Serena serving at 126 mph and then entering into a long rally?

For goodness sake!

You put your whole BODY strength into a serve, in fact, all the match — that’s where the speed comes from — not your fingertips.

I take it you don’t play tennis, Holly...

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It makes no difference.

That is RUBBISH!!!

Acrylics are almost unbreakable!!!

You’re either lying, or you’re clueless

[APRIL]

I was just reading thru some old docs.

From FE:

I have been asked if Sheila had trouble with her muscular coordination.  When she came out of hospital the second time she appeared to have slowed down.  By this she seemed to do things at a much slower pace.  She had no problem with her co-ordination and appeared to be aware of what she was doing.  She had no trouble in picking things up and holding onto them.

I don't believe her lack of coordination can be questioned. A film crew went into the Maudsley and filmed patients. They all had a curious gait and appeared to be in a zombified state -in a lesser way, this has been claimed of Sheila- which was due, it was claimed, to their medication. Whilst I'm not claiming that it was Haloperidol -only because I can't recall- it was certainly a medication renown -as is Haloperidol- for having these particular side effects.