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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #240 on: April 30, 2020, 09:48:30 PM »

But of course! Nothing is ever their fault.

I would suggest JB knows he did it and just doesn't want to do the time. That doesn't make him a psychopath.

If a child steals a sweet from a shop does that make him/her  a psychopath if he /she denies it when caught?

Sometimes name calling can stick with no evidence. He is a murderer, who doesn't want to do the time.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #241 on: April 30, 2020, 09:57:17 PM »
I would suggest JB knows he did it and just doesn't want to do the time. That doesn't make him a psychopath.

If a child steals a sweet from a shop does that make him/her  a psychopath if he /she denies it when caught?

Sometimes name calling can stick with no evidence. He is a murderer, who doesn't want to do the time.

Stealing sweets and killing 5 people for inheritance and blaming one of the victims is just a tad different. Bamber won't admit to the crime because he would have to admit to being a child killer. He has no choice about doing the time, his choice is in taking responsibility or not. The evidence is the cold and callous nature of his crime and his continued denial.

Offline Caroline

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #242 on: April 30, 2020, 09:58:42 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4867216/Dr-Max-s-wrong-call-Trump-mentally-ill.html?ITO=1490

And yes I know Trump hasn't killed anyone but the article is interesting and explains how in the US it is against the law for a psychiatrist to provide a diagnosis without actually meeting the individual.

Like I said, not all psychopaths are killers.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #243 on: April 30, 2020, 10:02:43 PM »
It's the wrong thread, granted, but she's an example - a pertinent example of the vagaries of the label.
That's the dichotomy you can't see.
That’s clearly because I’m an idiot, thanks for the reminder Oh Wise One.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #244 on: April 30, 2020, 10:04:59 PM »
Stealing sweets and killing 5 people for inheritance and blaming one of the victims is just a tad different. Bamber won't admit to the crime because he would have to admit to being a child killer. He has no choice about doing the time, his choice is in taking responsibility or not. The evidence is the cold and callous nature of his crime and his continued denial.

I don't think his killing spree is evidence of him being a psychopath. He did kill in cold blood because he wanted to and may have enjoyed doing it, but that can be put down to a 'single incident'  where as, do we believe he would become a serial killer in the public domain had he been set free?  No one knows and predicting is not a science.

He is enjoying his manipulation and adulation he has acquired- all swings and roundabouts.  He knows he is guilty- he just doesn't want to be punished for it.  That was the reason I mentioned the child with sweets.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #245 on: April 30, 2020, 10:05:52 PM »
That’s clearly because I’m an idiot, thanks for the reminder Oh Wise One.

You're not an idiot but there does appear to be a game afoot!

Offline Caroline

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #246 on: April 30, 2020, 10:07:47 PM »
I don't think his killing spree is evidence of him being a psychopath. He did kill in cold blood because he wanted to and may have enjoyed doing it, but that can be put down to a 'single incident'  where as, do we believe he would become a serial killer in the public domain had he been set free?  No one knows and predicting is not a science.

He is enjoying his manipulation and adulation he has acquired- all swings and roundabouts.  He knows he is guilty- he just doesn't want to be punished for it.  That was the reason I mentioned the child with sweets.


What has serial killers got to do with it?

Your last paragraph is describing a psychopath. They don't have to be serial killers.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #247 on: April 30, 2020, 10:08:06 PM »
I would suggest JB knows he did it and just doesn't want to do the time. That doesn't make him a psychopath.

If a child steals a sweet from a shop does that make him/her  a psychopath if he /she denies it when caught?

Sometimes name calling can stick with no evidence. He is a murderer, who doesn't want to do the time.
It could do.  If you can stealas a child  without conscience or remorse then it could be a sign of the psychopathy to come.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Nicholas

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #248 on: April 30, 2020, 10:41:49 PM »
I don't think his killing spree is evidence of him being a psychopath. He did kill in cold blood because he wanted to and may have enjoyed doing it, but that can be put down to a 'single incident'  where as, do we believe he would become a serial killer in the public domain had he been set free?  No one knows and predicting is not a science.

He is enjoying his manipulation and adulation he has acquired- all swings and roundabouts.  He knows he is guilty- he just doesn't want to be punished for it.  That was the reason I mentioned the child with sweets.

Yes
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Offline Common sense

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #249 on: April 30, 2020, 10:56:36 PM »
I don't think his killing spree is evidence of him being a psychopath. He did kill in cold blood because he wanted to and may have enjoyed doing it, but that can be put down to a 'single incident'  where as, do we believe he would become a serial killer in the public domain had he been set free?  No one knows and predicting is not a science.

He is enjoying his manipulation and adulation he has acquired- all swings and roundabouts.  He knows he is guilty- he just doesn't want to be punished for it.  That was the reason I mentioned the child with sweets.

I can imagine the loose end Julie having an "accident".. He might wait for his granny's inheritance but not if he got a chance to turn off her life support!

Once he had burned through the inheritance he would go after rich widows, making them take out life insurance policies and then drowning them in the bath until plod caught up with him.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #250 on: April 30, 2020, 11:11:40 PM »
You're not an idiot but there does appear to be a game afoot!
I’m certainly not playing any games.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Caroline

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #251 on: April 30, 2020, 11:12:32 PM »
I’m certainly not playing any games.

Not you

Offline Nicholas

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #252 on: May 01, 2020, 01:16:35 PM »
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #253 on: May 01, 2020, 05:18:55 PM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4867216/Dr-Max-s-wrong-call-Trump-mentally-ill.html?ITO=1490

And yes I know Trump hasn't killed anyone but the article is interesting and explains how in the US it is against the law for a psychiatrist to provide a diagnosis without actually meeting the individual.


But the prison psychiatrist interviewed Jeremy over many sessions when he was on remand, and that’s how he came to his conclusion that “Jeremy Bamber is an irreverent liar; a psychopath; and I believe 100% he’s guilty”

Likewise, the psychiatrist JB’s defence team employed to assess him gave the same diagnosis after seeing him (how many times I don’t know) He certified that Jeremy Bamber was a psychopath: and that’s why the defence didn’t produce it in court.
 

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Offline puglove

Re: Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?
« Reply #254 on: May 01, 2020, 05:29:21 PM »

But the prison psychiatrist interviewed Jeremy over many sessions when he was on remand, and that’s how he came to his conclusion that “Jeremy Bamber is an irreverent liar; a psychopath; and I believe 100% he’s guilty”

Likewise, the psychiatrist JB’s defence team employed to assess him gave the same diagnosis after seeing him (how many times I don’t know) He certified that Jeremy Bamber was a psychopath: and that’s why the defence didn’t produce it in court.

I think it's "inveterate" liar, Spy. Irreverent is when you pretend to be a vicar. Like Dick Emery.
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.