Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?

[Common sense]

As so much farmland and employees were involved it makes sense that someone had to run Nevill's company, so it's perfectly possible that Mr Cock called the meeting to deal with that urgent question. It could be said that the family behaved coldly too. They very quickly intervened to ensure that Peter Eaton was appointed to manage N & J Bamber.

I can't be bothered to check but I think the family did at least bother to turn up to the memorial service. BC would be highly insensitive to call a meeting the day after the murders would he not - and JB could have deferred if he was in shock and trying to come to terms with events. It's not like the farm workers would have not understood if their wages were a bit late.

In answer to the question posed by the thread topic, yes he did to this layman's eyes, even if you put aside him being responsible for the murders.

The question should also include, does he still display psychopathic traits and again my answer is yes. The graveside reading alone shows that his thinking just isn't normal. I think this is partly why his more credible supporters ignore the CT and everything he does as it poses uncomfortable questions with even more uncomfortable answers.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can't be bothered to check but I think the family did at least bother to turn up to the memorial service. BC would be highly insensitive to call a meeting the day after the murders would he not - and JB could have deferred if he was in shock and trying to come to terms with events. It's not like the farm workers would have not understood if their wages were a bit late.

In answer to the question posed by the thread topic, yes he did to this layman's eyes, even if you put aside him being responsible for the murders.

The question should also include, does he still display psychopathic traits and again my answer is yes. The graveside reading alone shows that his thinking just isn't normal. I think this is partly why his more credible supporters ignore the CT and everything he does as it poses uncomfortable questions with even more uncomfortable answers.

I've seen mention of this graveside reading before - can you tell me briefly what happened please?

[Caroline]

I've seen mention of this graveside reading before - can you tell me briefly what happened please?

Better than that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUyH-5t3S4

[John]

I can't be bothered to check but I think the family did at least bother to turn up to the memorial service. BC would be highly insensitive to call a meeting the day after the murders would he not - and JB could have deferred if he was in shock and trying to come to terms with events. It's not like the farm workers would have not understood if their wages were a bit late.

In answer to the question posed by the thread topic, yes he did to this layman's eyes, even if you put aside him being responsible for the murders.

The question should also include, does he still display psychopathic traits and again my answer is yes. The graveside reading alone shows that his thinking just isn't normal. I think this is partly why his more credible supporters ignore the CT and everything he does as it poses uncomfortable questions with even more uncomfortable answers.

Jeremy Bamber was arrested on murder charges on the 8th September 1985, he has been incarcerated ever since.  It must be extremely difficult to quantify his true cognitive capabilities these days given he has been in prison for almost 35 years. His 'normal' just isn't what we all perceive it to be.

[Caroline]

Jeremy Bamber was arrested on murder charges on the 8th September 1985, he has been incarcerated ever since.  It must be extremely difficult to quantify his true cognitive capabilities these days given he has been in prison for almost 35 years.

Having written to him for a few years, he pretty switched on. Remember he keeps himself busy with quite a responsible job. He is obsessed with getting out and he will use any little think to try and convince people he's innocent. I think he may have issues in the outside world - I think he would struggle after the attention stopped.

[The General]

Having written to him for a few years, he pretty switched on. Remember he keeps himself busy with quite a responsible job. He is obsessed with getting out and he will use any little think to try and convince people he's innocent. I think he may have issues in the outside world - I think he would struggle after the attention stopped.

He makes a very interesting examination specimen for clinical psychologists. He serves no other purpose as a human being.

[Caroline]

He makes a very interesting examination specimen for clinical psychologists. He serves no other purpose as a human being.

Whoa! He actually does do some good where he is, he works helping other prisoners to read and write, and has won awards for transcribing books in the prison's Braille workshop. If he came out, he's burn himself out in a haste to live out what he thinks he's missed. Not that that should be a reason to keep him inside - he deserves to be there - but at least he is helping people, that is some recompense - if only a small one.

[Common sense]

Jeremy Bamber was arrested on murder charges on the 8th September 1985, he has been incarcerated ever since.  It must be extremely difficult to quantify his true cognitive capabilities these days given he has been in prison for almost 35 years. His 'normal' just isn't what we all perceive it to be.

It's a fair point, but I will say the graveside stunt appeared to be nothing more than an attempt to manipulate his supporters. 

I should have used his letters to CC to illustrate

Those weren't an angry text message sent in a heat of the moment, he had time to think about it, put himself in Colins shoes and decide not to send it. The nasty bile that was sent when his attempts at manipulating CC failed was designed to be as hurtful to Colin as possible and I have little doubt that Bamber enjoyed the thought of causing him pain.

I'm pretty sure that attempts at manipulation and a desire to hurt others, perhaps relishing in their pain registers on the psychopathy scale but admit, I am no psychiatrist. 

[Caroline]

It's a fair point, but I will say the graveside stunt appeared to be nothing more than an attempt to manipulate his supporters. 

I should have used his letters to CC to illustrate

Those weren't an angry text message sent in a heat of the moment, he had time to think about it, put himself in Colins shoes and decide not to send it. The nasty bile that was sent when his attempts at manipulating CC failed was designed to be as hurtful to Colin as possible and I have little doubt that Bamber enjoyed the thought of causing him pain.

I'm pretty sure that attempts at manipulation and a desire to hurt others, perhaps relishing in their pain registers on the psychopathy scale but admit, I am no psychiatrist.

He still harbours a grudge against Colin.

[APRIL]

It's a fair point, but I will say the graveside stunt appeared to be nothing more than an attempt to manipulate his supporters. 

I should have used his letters to CC to illustrate

Those weren't an angry text message sent in a heat of the moment, he had time to think about it, put himself in Colins shoes and decide not to send it. The nasty bile that was sent when his attempts at manipulating CC failed was designed to be as hurtful to Colin as possible and I have little doubt that Bamber enjoyed the thought of causing him pain.

I'm pretty sure that attempts at manipulation and a desire to hurt others, perhaps relishing in their pain registers on the psychopathy scale but admit, I am no psychiatrist.

It isn't necessary to be a psychiatrist to understand that anyone deriving pleasure from hurting others is unlikely to be a person who's happy with their lot.

[mrswah]

Having written to him for a few years, he pretty switched on. Remember he keeps himself busy with quite a responsible job. He is obsessed with getting out and he will use any little think to try and convince people he's innocent. I think he may have issues in the outside world - I think he would struggle after the attention stopped.

I would imagine any prisoner who had done 35 years would have issues adapting to the outside world.

[Caroline]

I would imagine any prisoner who had done 35 years would have issues adapting to the outside world.

Best leave him where he is then! 

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It's a fair point, but I will say the graveside stunt appeared to be nothing more than an attempt to manipulate his supporters. 

I should have used his letters to CC to illustrate

Those weren't an angry text message sent in a heat of the moment, he had time to think about it, put himself in Colins shoes and decide not to send it. The nasty bile that was sent when his attempts at manipulating CC failed was designed to be as hurtful to Colin as possible and I have little doubt that Bamber enjoyed the thought of causing him pain.

I'm pretty sure that attempts at manipulation and a desire to hurt others, perhaps relishing in their pain registers on the psychopathy scale but admit, I am no psychiatrist.

Psychopaths get pleasure from being sadistic; they enjoy inflicting pain — it excites them.

But not all psychopaths become murderers, few do, in fact. Many can lead seemingly normal lives, in fact, very successful ones. Tycoons are often psychopathic and the reason they get so rich is that they’re ruthless and don’t care who they hurt while they tread on everyone to get where they want.

Jeremy Bamber was prepared to kill his family so the twins would never inherit a share, and he also wanted the money without waiting possibly 20 years or so. That shows how ruthless he is. He also displayed sadistic tendencies as a child when throwing stones at baby ducklings and hitting little animals with big sticks: it made Sheila cry and he got pleasure from that too.

He got pleasure from tricking June into putting her hand in his pockets he’d hidden rats in.


Pleasure from cycling round and round June then pulling up sharply.

He later got pleasure from psychologically abusing his girlfriends. He’d raise their hopes, then let them down. Flirt with others in front of them. Play mind games. Make them feel worthless and dependent on him. And he’s still doing it now. He uses the majority of women who write to him, pretends he fancies them, and then starts asking for money. He got pleasure by allowing Daisy to travel all the way to visit him, just so he could see her crestfallen face as he spat “I never liked you anyway!”

He’s as evil and psychopathic now as he was when he murdered his family: he’s just learned how to hide his deep hate because he realises it doesn’t benefit him.