New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I always thought these people are same as this Christian B, really really sick minds... what else would trigger them to wanting to help him? I would not be surprised if he was the member of 3 arguidos. And even if he befriended their beloved inspector A, the inspector is so much swimming in his own ego trip, he would not even notice this Christian guy is actually dodgy.

God, I shudder to imagine this monster posting on MM forums and mocking the McCanns and their supporters, whilst being applauded by the sceptics.  Ugh.

[misty]

https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/politie-volgde-bus-met-duitse-maddie-verdachte-maar-die-bleek-spoorloos-in-amsterdam~aa77f1b3/

Google translation from Dutch press

drug trafficking. © AP
'Police followed bus with German Maddie suspect, but it turned out to be missing in Amsterdam'
The 43-year-old German suspected of murdering British Maddie McCann was observed by police in 2018. German detectives even followed Christian Brückner when he traveled to the Netherlands by bus. At the border, they informed their Dutch colleagues about the arrival of the sex offender, who was considered dangerous, but things went wrong after that. German media report this.

Caspar Naber 08-06-20, 23:00 Last update: 23:35
Upon arrival in Amsterdam, the German had suddenly disappeared, according to Braunschweiger Zeitung and Bild  . It is not known how he managed this and where he went afterwards. Brückner apparently traveled unnoticed to Italy, where he applied for a new passport at the German consulate in Milan. He was arrested on 27 September 2018 when the ID was collected. This on the basis of a European arrest warrant that had already been issued by the Public Prosecution Service in Flensburg.


That arrest warrant came about because Brückner did not comply with the conditions of his probation. It entered into effect on August 31, 2018 after his release from prison. He had been detained there for a year and three months for child abuse and possession of child pornography. Instead of reporting to his probation officer at least once a month, the German left for Italy via the Netherlands. In addition, he still had a 2011 and nine months' imprisonment for drug trafficking.

Because the German police already suspected in 2018 that he might have something to do with the disappearance of Maddie McCann and were considered "very dangerous", the Braunschweig detective arranged for him to be monitored 24 hours a day. This was done by local police officers and colleagues from the federal police.

Games
Brückner would soon have noticed that he was being watched. “He started playing games with us. For example, got on a tram and got off again shortly afterwards, '' the regional newspaper quoted one of the members of the observation team at the time. The detectives soon had enough of his games and told the suspect: "You will not lose us anyway."

The multiple convicted sex offender is said to have reacted angrily but eventually resigned himself to the situation. The investigators even made arrangements with Brückner. "I said to him: we can make things easier for ourselves. Let us know where you want to go. For example, we brought it to the health insurer or to the city center. ''

Christian Brückner stayed in Portugal from 1995 to 2007. His cell phone, according to police, was probed near Praia da Luz on the night of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. She disappeared on May 3, 2007 from the holiday home rented by her parents. This while Gerry and Kate McCann were having dinner in a restaurant with friends. Brückner called a Portuguese number just over an hour before the disappearance and had a conversation of about half an hour.

Accomplice
Earlier today, it was announced that the Portuguese police are a former employee on the trail of the holiday resort where the McCann family stayed in 2007. The man is suspected of complicity in the case. The detective suspects that he worked with Brückner, with whom he had several contacts at the time. He may have tipped the German off about a suitable time to enter the McCanns' apartment. The former employee of the complex has also been linked in the past to sex crimes with minors in the Algarve.


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Another person not thoroughly investigated by PJ at the time??

[Carana]

Very strange wording

Yes, as is the wording on the Sky site:


Mr Wolters continued: "The hard evidence we don't have, we don't have the crucial evidence of Madeleine McCann's body.

"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094


Any familiar with German criminal law?

My only guess is that in Germany, they may need a body to prosecute for murder, regardless of whatever other evidence they may have...

Even if that's the case, why couldn't he be charged in Portugal?

[VIXTE]

https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/politie-volgde-bus-met-duitse-maddie-verdachte-maar-die-bleek-spoorloos-in-amsterdam~aa77f1b3/

Google translation from Dutch press

drug trafficking. © AP
'Police followed bus with German Maddie suspect, but it turned out to be missing in Amsterdam'
The 43-year-old German suspected of murdering British Maddie McCann was observed by police in 2018. German detectives even followed Christian Brückner when he traveled to the Netherlands by bus. At the border, they informed their Dutch colleagues about the arrival of the sex offender, who was considered dangerous, but things went wrong after that. German media report this.

Caspar Naber 08-06-20, 23:00 Last update: 23:35
Upon arrival in Amsterdam, the German had suddenly disappeared, according to Braunschweiger Zeitung and Bild  . It is not known how he managed this and where he went afterwards. Brückner apparently traveled unnoticed to Italy, where he applied for a new passport at the German consulate in Milan. He was arrested on 27 September 2018 when the ID was collected. This on the basis of a European arrest warrant that had already been issued by the Public Prosecution Service in Flensburg.


That arrest warrant came about because Brückner did not comply with the conditions of his probation. It entered into effect on August 31, 2018 after his release from prison. He had been detained there for a year and three months for child abuse and possession of child pornography. Instead of reporting to his probation officer at least once a month, the German left for Italy via the Netherlands. In addition, he still had a 2011 and nine months' imprisonment for drug trafficking.

Because the German police already suspected in 2018 that he might have something to do with the disappearance of Maddie McCann and were considered "very dangerous", the Braunschweig detective arranged for him to be monitored 24 hours a day. This was done by local police officers and colleagues from the federal police.

Games
Brückner would soon have noticed that he was being watched. “He started playing games with us. For example, got on a tram and got off again shortly afterwards, '' the regional newspaper quoted one of the members of the observation team at the time. The detectives soon had enough of his games and told the suspect: "You will not lose us anyway."

The multiple convicted sex offender is said to have reacted angrily but eventually resigned himself to the situation. The investigators even made arrangements with Brückner. "I said to him: we can make things easier for ourselves. Let us know where you want to go. For example, we brought it to the health insurer or to the city center. ''

Christian Brückner stayed in Portugal from 1995 to 2007. His cell phone, according to police, was probed near Praia da Luz on the night of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. She disappeared on May 3, 2007 from the holiday home rented by her parents. This while Gerry and Kate McCann were having dinner in a restaurant with friends. Brückner called a Portuguese number just over an hour before the disappearance and had a conversation of about half an hour.

Accomplice
Earlier today, it was announced that the Portuguese police are a former employee on the trail of the holiday resort where the McCann family stayed in 2007. The man is suspected of complicity in the case. The detective suspects that he worked with Brückner, with whom he had several contacts at the time. He may have tipped the German off about a suitable time to enter the McCanns' apartment. The former employee of the complex has also been linked in the past to sex crimes with minors in the Algarve.


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Another person not thoroughly investigated by PJ at the time??

1. It seems Germans are really determined to get this guy
2. How the hell Mark Warner allowed someone with a history of "sex crimes with minors" to work at the Ocean Club?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yes, as is the wording on the Sky site:


Mr Wolters continued: "The hard evidence we don't have, we don't have the crucial evidence of Madeleine McCann's body.

"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094


Any familiar with German criminal law?

My only guess is that in Germany, they may need a body to prosecute for murder, regardless of whatever other evidence they may have...

Even if that's the case, why couldn't he be charged in Portugal?

Please don’t let him be charged in Portugal.  He will get off scot-free and feted as a celebrity.

[Vertigo Swirl]

1. It seems Germans are really determined to get this guy
2. How the hell Mark Warner allowed someone with a history of "sex crimes with minors" to work at the Ocean Club?

Perhaps they didn’t know.

[pathfinder73]

https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/politie-volgde-bus-met-duitse-maddie-verdachte-maar-die-bleek-spoorloos-in-amsterdam~aa77f1b3/

Google translation from Dutch press

drug trafficking. © AP
'Police followed bus with German Maddie suspect, but it turned out to be missing in Amsterdam'
The 43-year-old German suspected of murdering British Maddie McCann was observed by police in 2018. German detectives even followed Christian Brückner when he traveled to the Netherlands by bus. At the border, they informed their Dutch colleagues about the arrival of the sex offender, who was considered dangerous, but things went wrong after that. German media report this.

Caspar Naber 08-06-20, 23:00 Last update: 23:35
Upon arrival in Amsterdam, the German had suddenly disappeared, according to Braunschweiger Zeitung and Bild  . It is not known how he managed this and where he went afterwards. Brückner apparently traveled unnoticed to Italy, where he applied for a new passport at the German consulate in Milan. He was arrested on 27 September 2018 when the ID was collected. This on the basis of a European arrest warrant that had already been issued by the Public Prosecution Service in Flensburg.


That arrest warrant came about because Brückner did not comply with the conditions of his probation. It entered into effect on August 31, 2018 after his release from prison. He had been detained there for a year and three months for child abuse and possession of child pornography. Instead of reporting to his probation officer at least once a month, the German left for Italy via the Netherlands. In addition, he still had a 2011 and nine months' imprisonment for drug trafficking.

Because the German police already suspected in 2018 that he might have something to do with the disappearance of Maddie McCann and were considered "very dangerous", the Braunschweig detective arranged for him to be monitored 24 hours a day. This was done by local police officers and colleagues from the federal police.

Games
Brückner would soon have noticed that he was being watched. “He started playing games with us. For example, got on a tram and got off again shortly afterwards, '' the regional newspaper quoted one of the members of the observation team at the time. The detectives soon had enough of his games and told the suspect: "You will not lose us anyway."

The multiple convicted sex offender is said to have reacted angrily but eventually resigned himself to the situation. The investigators even made arrangements with Brückner. "I said to him: we can make things easier for ourselves. Let us know where you want to go. For example, we brought it to the health insurer or to the city center. ''

Christian Brückner stayed in Portugal from 1995 to 2007. His cell phone, according to police, was probed near Praia da Luz on the night of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. She disappeared on May 3, 2007 from the holiday home rented by her parents. This while Gerry and Kate McCann were having dinner in a restaurant with friends. Brückner called a Portuguese number just over an hour before the disappearance and had a conversation of about half an hour.

Accomplice
Earlier today, it was announced that the Portuguese police are a former employee on the trail of the holiday resort where the McCann family stayed in 2007. The man is suspected of complicity in the case. The detective suspects that he worked with Brückner, with whom he had several contacts at the time. He may have tipped the German off about a suitable time to enter the McCanns' apartment. The former employee of the complex has also been linked in the past to sex crimes with minors in the Algarve.


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Another person not thoroughly investigated by PJ at the time??

The PJ did a good job under the circumstances and DNA results let them down. But the Germans are going to be a laughing stock when the German abductor accomplice on the phone was in fact his girlfriend. If that is true it is a major embarrassment!

[Vertigo Swirl]

The PJ did a good job under the circumstances and DNA results let them down. But the Germans are going to be a laughing stock when the German abductor accomplice on the phone was in fact his girlfriend. If that is true it is a major embarrassment!

Do you have a cite for the Germans claiming the phone conversation was with an accomplice?

[faithlilly]

The PJ did a good job under the circumstances and DNA results let them down. But the Germans are going to be a laughing stock when the German abductor accomplice on the phone was in fact his girlfriend. If that is true it is a major embarrassment!

I really can’t believe they are as incompetent as they appear to be.

[pathfinder73]

Do you have a cite for the Germans claiming the phone conversation was with an accomplice?

Of course they would think that number had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance happening shortly before she disappeared. That is a daft question IMO!

[misty]

Yes, as is the wording on the Sky site:


Mr Wolters continued: "The hard evidence we don't have, we don't have the crucial evidence of Madeleine McCann's body.

"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

"That's why we need more information from people, especially places he has lived so we can target these places especially and search there for Madeleine."

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094


Any familiar with German criminal law?

My only guess is that in Germany, they may need a body to prosecute for murder, regardless of whatever other evidence they may have...

Even if that's the case, why couldn't he be charged in Portugal?

According to Wiki, there have only been two bodyless convictions in Germany - one in 1924 & the other in 2005. The latter proved to be a miscarriage of justice when the victim, Rudolf Rupp, was later found submerged in the driver's seat of his car in the Danube. The accused were convicted on the basis they had dismembered the body & fed it to dogs...I don't think the Germans would want a repeat of this.
However, I think if Madeleine is actually dead, it will need to be established where she died before determining which country could legally proceed with a prosecution.

[sadie]

Getaway driver? Where was his vehicle parked?  You believe he sold Madeleine but after the disappearance he is reported to be working as a low paid waiter! 

Tasmin Silence suspect https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/T_M_S_AGE_12.htm

No, I do not believe that he sold Madeleine.   I believe that a very rich  and clever man commissioned a group of (maybe) burglars to abduct her.   When I say commissioned, large sums of money, or drugs, may have been offered, but it is quite likely that the burglars/abductors could alternatively have been blackmailed/threatened into doing it.   

One doesn't cross the Drug Baron or the Trafficking King.  Cos this is what might happen

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322187/British-man-tortured-Portugal-unpaid-drug-debt.html

This guy lost an ear, two fingers and three toes chopped off, testicle cut off and was about to be drown in the lake with a weight to hold him down when he escaped.


One doesn't cross The Drug Baron or the Trafficking King

[faithlilly]

The German police want information from tourists who were in PDL from 1995 to 2007....why ? Why tourists and not people who have actually lived in PDL ?

It is thought that he may have carried out other sex attacks on British, American and Irish tourists but even if they could tie these to Brueckner it still doesn’t prove he is linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

The German police don’t appear to be linking Brueckner to the other attacks we were told had been suffered by British children in their apartments. If they believe that he could enter an apartment and abduct a child why are they not linking him to the previous attacks ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course they would think that number had something to do with Madeleine's disappearance happening shortly before she disappeared. That is a daft question IMO!

That is not what the police have said.  They are appealing for this person to come forward as a witness not a suspect.

IMO you are in no position to be accusing me of being daft.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The German police want information from tourists who were in PDL from 1995 to 2007....why ? Why tourists and not people who have actually lived in PDL ?

It is thought that he may have carried out other sex attacks on British, American and Irish tourists but even if they could tie these to Brueckner it still doesn’t prove he is linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

The German police don’t appear to be linking Brueckner to the other attacks we were told had been suffered by British children in their apartments. If they believe that he could enter an apartment and abduct a child why are they not linking him to the previous attacks ?

What gives you the impression they have ruled him out of those attacks?