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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1170 on: June 09, 2020, 07:33:01 AM »
The German police want information from tourists who were in PDL from 1995 to 2007....why ? Why tourists and not people who have actually lived in PDL ?

It is thought that he may have carried out other sex attacks on British, American and Irish tourists but even if they could tie these to Brueckner it still doesn’t prove he is linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.

The German police don’t appear to be linking Brueckner to the other attacks we were told had been suffered by British children in their apartments. If they believe that he could enter an apartment and abduct a child why are they not linking him to the previous attacks ?

Yes I was wondering about the following:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11111.msg563105#msg563105

The Germans/tabloids appear to be wanting to link CB with disappeared children/young women.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1171 on: June 09, 2020, 09:07:20 AM »
deleted, found the info I was looking for in archive.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:40:04 AM by VIXTE »

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1172 on: June 09, 2020, 09:20:56 AM »
From the Guardian today - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/victim-asks-madeleine-mccann-detectives-review-her-case

Hazel Behan was working in Praia da Rocha, Portugal, 30 minutes’ drive from where Madeleine was abducted, when she was viciously assaulted by a stranger in her apartment in 2004. The assailant was never caught.


Similar MO to that used with the American lady

I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1173 on: June 09, 2020, 09:32:14 AM »
From the Guardian today - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/victim-asks-madeleine-mccann-detectives-review-her-case

Hazel Behan was working in Praia da Rocha, Portugal, 30 minutes’ drive from where Madeleine was abducted, when she was viciously assaulted by a stranger in her apartment in 2004. The assailant was never caught.


Similar MO to that used with the American lady

If that is him he seems to have taken a video camera with him to the scene in both rapes and taken the time to set it up, confident he is not going to be disturbed as the victim is alone for hours. Either he changed his M.O. considerably when targeting Madeleine or he was confident he wouldn't be disturbed there either.
  If they do have other evidence that Bruckner was in 5a, what will people start to think about the dog alerts then
I wonder?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1174 on: June 09, 2020, 09:43:34 AM »
If that is him he seems to have taken a video camera with him to the scene in both rapes and taken the time to set it up, confident he is not going to be disturbed as the victim is alone for hours. Either he changed his M.O. considerably when targeting Madeleine or he was confident he wouldn't be disturbed there either.
  If they do have other evidence that Bruckner was in 5a, what will people start to think about the dog alerts then
I wonder?

The problem with the dog alerts is one of time.
If they were detecting Madeleine's  cadaver scent, then she would have to have been dead for upward of 60 minutes, maybe longer.
This is incompatible with McCann claims of regular visits.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1175 on: June 09, 2020, 09:46:28 AM »
The problem with the dog alerts is one of time.
If they were detecting Madeleine's  cadaver scent, then she would have to have been dead for upward of 60 minutes, maybe longer.
This is incompatible with McCann claims of regular visits.

I agree so ether the alerts were not to  cadaver or the mccanns lied. SY appera to think the alerts were not to a cadaver in taht case.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1176 on: June 09, 2020, 10:19:55 AM »
I agree so ether the alerts were not to  cadaver or the mccanns lied. SY appera to think the alerts were not to a cadaver in taht case.

I agree with you there are certain possibilities such as those but, more than just those two. It is also possible the McCanns did lie about timing and the cadaver scent alerts correct but an abductor killed her.

  Smaller bodies can develop cadaver scent more quickly apparently.

I found this report of a podcast. From the Daily Star I know, so not a great source but interesting if this former judge agrees there is too little evidence to link Bruckner. I presume the podcast is German, so might be hard to track down.

"Dr Fischer, a former federal judge, said he did not believe German police had incontrovertible evidence she had been killed.

He said: "You don't know whether the child is dead or not.

"There are certain plausibilities that derive from criminal experience but which I think are spread with a certain unpleasant undertone also by the investigative authorities.

"If the public prosecutor knew more, they would say more."

Dr Fischer went on to say he was skeptical the case was about to be solved and unconvinced the police have enough evidence to prosecute.

"There is a clear evidence base, but no compelling evidence,” he said.

"It would be a mistake to commit yourself too early and to say that he was there, he has a criminal record, he doesn't say anything, he must have been."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/breaking-german-prosecutor-madeleine-mccann-22159295

Edit - I found the original podcast, in German, so no idea how accurate the transcript above is.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.swr.de/swr2/leben-und-gesellschaft/podcast-sprechen-wir-ueber-mord-100.html&prev=search
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:26:13 AM by Gertrude »

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1177 on: June 09, 2020, 10:24:09 AM »
These are emotive times so please keep replies and comments constructive and above all, civil. TY

PS.  Anyone heard what this evidence is that allows the German prosecutor to claim for certain that Madeleine is deceased?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:26:55 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1178 on: June 09, 2020, 10:32:28 AM »
These are emotive times so please keep replies and comments constructive and above all, civil. TY

PS.  Anyone heard what this evidence is that allows the German prosecutor to claim for certain that Madeleine is deceased?

Nothing much at all as far as I can see.  We still only have Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

Such a pity that The McCanns weren't afforded the same courtesy by so many.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1179 on: June 09, 2020, 10:41:15 AM »
That is not what the police have said.  They are appealing for this person to come forward as a witness not a suspect.

IMO you are in no position to be accusing me of being daft.

The Germans are convinced that he did it so they believe the call is to do with Madeleine's appearance.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:43:54 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1180 on: June 09, 2020, 10:41:26 AM »
These are emotive times so please keep replies and comments constructive and above all, civil. TY

PS.  Anyone heard what this evidence is that allows the German prosecutor to claim for certain that Madeleine is deceased?

I don't think they are claiming for certain when they are saying things like this, ( Prosecutors Office)

'“We expect that she is dead, but we don’t have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/some-evidence-madeleine-mccann-is-dead-say-german-authorities

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1181 on: June 09, 2020, 10:45:18 AM »
I don't think they are claiming for certain when they are saying things like this, ( Prosecutors Office)

'“We expect that she is dead, but we don’t have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/some-evidence-madeleine-mccann-is-dead-say-german-authorities

Either the British press are construing the facts as per usual or there is a flaw in the interpretation of what the Germans are actually claiming?

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:51:09 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1182 on: June 09, 2020, 10:47:45 AM »
"Between 1992 – when he was 16 – and 1994, he lived in an institution for young people with learning difficulties."
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/06/pictured-adoptive-mother-of-madeleine-mccann-first-suspect-christian-brueckner.html

The above article also talks about him having lived in an "institution for juvenile delinquents."  I wonder if that and the "special needs" establishment were one and the same.

It seems his mother couldn't manage ,  after her husband sustained an injury, and was no longer able to discipline the boy.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1183 on: June 09, 2020, 10:49:31 AM »
Seems the British press are construing the facts as usual then?

I would say so. It is rather curious to me why the German police at this time are sticking their necks out when they are really in the same position as Scotland Yard who have said there is no proof she is dead or alive. 

The German ex-judge I linked to above seems to have been involved in authoring some of the criminal code in Germany so I expect he knows his stuff when he says it would be a huge mistake to go after Bruckner too early.

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1184 on: June 09, 2020, 10:53:40 AM »
If Brückner is a lone wolf, they will struggle to get anything on him unless they stumble upon remains.  Looks like a job for the dogs.

Just makes one wonder how many other old paedophiles who roamed the area have hidden secrets buried there too?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:57:53 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.