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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1185 on: June 09, 2020, 10:53:55 AM »
I would say so. It is rather curious to me why the German police at this time are sticking their necks out when they are really in the same position as Scotland Yard who have said there is no proof she is dead or alive. 

The German ex-judge I linked to above seems to have been involved in authoring some of the criminal code in Germany so I expect he knows his stuff when he says it would be a huge mistake to go after Bruckner too early.

But surely by putting  all this information into the public domain, they have 'gone after him'

Not that he can do anything while locked up, but forewarned is forearmed - in regard to other cases, even if he is squeaky clean as regards Madeleine
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1186 on: June 09, 2020, 10:58:50 AM »
But surely by putting  all this information into the public domain, they have 'gone after him'

Not that he can do anything while locked up, but forewarned is forearmed - in regard to other cases, even if he is squeaky clean as regards Madeleine

I think they have gone after him. I agree with the judge, it's a mistake. The cynical side of me is thinking Scotland Yard are happy for this to happen whilst they remain non-committal. Then when nothing is found on Bruckner we have the association of him forever to the crime ( whether he did it or not) and another foreign police force to blame for messing the case up.
 

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1187 on: June 09, 2020, 11:11:04 AM »
I think they have gone after him. I agree with the judge, it's a mistake. The cynical side of me is thinking Scotland Yard are happy for this to happen whilst they remain non-committal. Then when nothing is found on Bruckner we have the association of him forever to the crime ( whether he did it or not) and another foreign police force to blame for messing the case up.
 

Cynicism is good.

I think you are absolutely right regarding Grange. They can stay at arm's length, while pushing for more funding to keep the case live - after all it would look bad to shut down when they are so near to a conclusion.

Unless Brueckner has some cast iron alibi, he will always be viewed as most likely person whodunit & Grange can ultimately wind down by claiming that they identified the culprit but didn't have enough evidence to prove it.
Shades of Ben Needham.



I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1188 on: June 09, 2020, 11:15:40 AM »
Even if Brueckner confessed in front of TV cameras the sceptics would go: "Nah, he was paid for it. It is the parents who dunnit, because the dogs  never lie and our beloved inspector GA says so."

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1189 on: June 09, 2020, 11:16:00 AM »
Cynicism is good.

I think you are absolutely right regarding Grange. They can stay at arm's length, while pushing for more funding to keep the case live - after all it would look bad to shut down when they are so near to a conclusion.

Unless Brueckner has some cast iron alibi, he will always be viewed as most likely person whodunit & Grange can ultimately wind down by claiming that they identified the culprit but didn't have enough evidence to prove it.
Shades of Ben Needham.

 Yes exactly my thinking!

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1190 on: June 09, 2020, 11:16:46 AM »
Even if Brueckner confessed in front of TV cameras the sceptics would go: "Nah, he was paid for it. It is the parents who dunnit, because the dogs  never lie and our beloved inspector GA says so."

People make false confession, nothing to do with not wanting to believe him but the courts would need more. Ex Judge Dr Dr. Thomas Fischer is not a McCann family supporter or Amaral fan as far as I know yet he says there needs to be more evidence.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1191 on: June 09, 2020, 11:19:09 AM »
Might be best to see what comes out in the next week before jumping to conclusions

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1192 on: June 09, 2020, 11:20:41 AM »
Of course, if squeaky clean regarding Madeleine, there  would be nothing to confess.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1193 on: June 09, 2020, 11:26:26 AM »
People make false confession, nothing to do with not wanting to believe him but the courts would need more. Ex Judge Dr Dr. Thomas Fischer is not a McCann family supporter or Amaral fan as far as I know yet he says there needs to be more evidence.

But, in the contrary, If he indeed did it, imagine the amount of gratification he had while watching the news. I bet he loved the attention and the the3arguido and likes crowd actually helped him to continue with his sick deeds and go unpunished

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1194 on: June 09, 2020, 11:32:51 AM »
He has been described as a rather cold character, so one doesn't know that he takes any long-term satisfaction about the crimes he is known to have committed
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1195 on: June 09, 2020, 11:37:23 AM »
Might be best to see what comes out in the next week before jumping to conclusions

Seems like that's what the German police have done IMO and that of the ex-judge.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1196 on: June 09, 2020, 11:39:44 AM »
But, in the contrary, If he indeed did it, imagine the amount of gratification he had while watching the news. I bet he loved the attention and the the3arguido and likes crowd actually helped him to continue with his sick deeds and go unpunished

People who make false confessions get gratification also without even needing to do the crime. I've no idea how the 3arguido crowd are helping him, doesn't seem very relevant.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1197 on: June 09, 2020, 11:41:15 AM »
People make false confession, nothing to do with not wanting to believe him but the courts would need more. Ex Judge Dr Dr. Thomas Fischer is not a McCann family supporter or Amaral fan as far as I know yet he says there needs to be more evidence.

The Court didn't need more than a confession in the case of Leonor Cipriano despite her being beaten up by The PJ.

But that is Portugal for you.  That one needs looking into again without the assistance of Amaral.  Although Bruckner isn't going to confess to that one either.

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1198 on: June 09, 2020, 11:42:51 AM »
Mr Wolters: "We suspect that he has done some more crimes against the British, American and Irish nationals."

Why only these nationals?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1199 on: June 09, 2020, 11:46:34 AM »
Mr Wolters: "We suspect that he has done some more crimes against the British, American and Irish nationals."

Why only these nationals?

Why indeed.
Perhaps because he is known to have spent many years in and around Portuguese holiday resorts, which seem to be  popular among British & Irish tourists.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future