New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[VIXTE]

I've no idea how the 3arguido crowd are helping him, doesn't seem very relevant.

Of course they are helping him, pointing the blame at parents, and diverting the attention from the real perpetrator.

[pathfinder73]

I agree with you there are certain possibilities such as those but, more than just those two. It is also possible the McCanns did lie about timing and the cadaver scent alerts correct but an abductor killed her.

  Smaller bodies can develop cadaver scent more quickly apparently.

I found this report of a podcast. From the Daily Star I know, so not a great source but interesting if this former judge agrees there is too little evidence to link Bruckner. I presume the podcast is German, so might be hard to track down.

"Dr Fischer, a former federal judge, said he did not believe German police had incontrovertible evidence she had been killed.

He said: "You don't know whether the child is dead or not.

"There are certain plausibilities that derive from criminal experience but which I think are spread with a certain unpleasant undertone also by the investigative authorities.

"If the public prosecutor knew more, they would say more."

Dr Fischer went on to say he was skeptical the case was about to be solved and unconvinced the police have enough evidence to prosecute.

"There is a clear evidence base, but no compelling evidence,” he said.

"It would be a mistake to commit yourself too early and to say that he was there, he has a criminal record, he doesn't say anything, he must have been."

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/breaking-german-prosecutor-madeleine-mccann-22159295

Edit - I found the original podcast, in German, so no idea how accurate the transcript above is.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.swr.de/swr2/leben-und-gesellschaft/podcast-sprechen-wir-ueber-mord-100.html&prev=search

Dr. Fischer talks sense and agrees with OG and the PJ. He is correct they have no evidence of Madeleine's body. They better not waste resources digging because the German is not Smithman. Search Barragem da Bravura lake for the body - by putting myself in his shoes you cannot dig on that hard ground but it's easy to use that massive lake for it to never be seen again.

[G-Unit]

Why indeed.
Perhaps because he is known to have spent many years in and around Portuguese holiday resorts, which seem to be  popular among British & Irish tourists.

Germans and Dutch people seemed to like the Algarve too. I haven't seen much mention of Americans?

[Mr Gray]

according to the papers Naskscije is laying low....i wonder why. she is not under suspicion and if she has no information why not just say so.

[Brietta]

Anyone here a member?  Some of us did predict this would happen...

Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
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There is a group on facebook called 'Madeleine McCann abduction or scam' . Its members are involved in trolling her parents. There latest action sums them up, they want to raise money for the suspect & predatory p.a.e.dophile #ChristianBrueckner to get him the best defence

Sadly it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[VIXTE]

Dr. Fischer talks sense and agrees with OG and the PJ. He is correct they have no evidence of Madeleine's body. They better not waste resources digging because the German is not Smithman. Search Barragem da Bravura lake for the body - by putting myself in his shoes you cannot dig on that hard ground but it's easy to use that massive lake for it to never be seen again.

There should be no competition between the police forces. They should all work together in solving this crime.
PJ unit that was in charge of Madeleine's case did more harm to the reputation of the area than all news stories together, for trying to hide the real picture.
I would not highlight the articles criticizing the current German prosecutor, he is right, the serial sex offender should be in jail and I hope they succeed in their efforts.

[Wonderfulspam]

Anyone here a member?  Some of us did predict this would happen...

Mark Williams-Thomas
@mwilliamsthomas
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28m


There is a group on facebook called 'Madeleine McCann abduction or scam' . Its members are involved in trolling her parents. There latest action sums them up, they want to raise money for the suspect & predatory p.a.e.dophile #ChristianBrueckner to get him the best defence

That's a fantastic idea.

I always donate to worthy causes & I've got plenty of spare cash lying around since I've been in lockdown for 4 months.
I'll have to look that group up & offer this innocent man my full support.

[Brietta]

https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/politie-volgde-bus-met-duitse-maddie-verdachte-maar-die-bleek-spoorloos-in-amsterdam~aa77f1b3/

Google translation from Dutch press

drug trafficking. © AP
'Police followed bus with German Maddie suspect, but it turned out to be missing in Amsterdam'
The 43-year-old German suspected of murdering British Maddie McCann was observed by police in 2018. German detectives even followed Christian Brückner when he traveled to the Netherlands by bus. At the border, they informed their Dutch colleagues about the arrival of the sex offender, who was considered dangerous, but things went wrong after that. German media report this.

Caspar Naber 08-06-20, 23:00 Last update: 23:35
Upon arrival in Amsterdam, the German had suddenly disappeared, according to Braunschweiger Zeitung and Bild  . It is not known how he managed this and where he went afterwards. Brückner apparently traveled unnoticed to Italy, where he applied for a new passport at the German consulate in Milan. He was arrested on 27 September 2018 when the ID was collected. This on the basis of a European arrest warrant that had already been issued by the Public Prosecution Service in Flensburg.


That arrest warrant came about because Brückner did not comply with the conditions of his probation. It entered into effect on August 31, 2018 after his release from prison. He had been detained there for a year and three months for child abuse and possession of child pornography. Instead of reporting to his probation officer at least once a month, the German left for Italy via the Netherlands. In addition, he still had a 2011 and nine months' imprisonment for drug trafficking.

Because the German police already suspected in 2018 that he might have something to do with the disappearance of Maddie McCann and were considered "very dangerous", the Braunschweig detective arranged for him to be monitored 24 hours a day. This was done by local police officers and colleagues from the federal police.

Games
Brückner would soon have noticed that he was being watched. “He started playing games with us. For example, got on a tram and got off again shortly afterwards, '' the regional newspaper quoted one of the members of the observation team at the time. The detectives soon had enough of his games and told the suspect: "You will not lose us anyway."

The multiple convicted sex offender is said to have reacted angrily but eventually resigned himself to the situation. The investigators even made arrangements with Brückner. "I said to him: we can make things easier for ourselves. Let us know where you want to go. For example, we brought it to the health insurer or to the city center. ''

Christian Brückner stayed in Portugal from 1995 to 2007. His cell phone, according to police, was probed near Praia da Luz on the night of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. She disappeared on May 3, 2007 from the holiday home rented by her parents. This while Gerry and Kate McCann were having dinner in a restaurant with friends. Brückner called a Portuguese number just over an hour before the disappearance and had a conversation of about half an hour.

Accomplice
Earlier today, it was announced that the Portuguese police are a former employee on the trail of the holiday resort where the McCann family stayed in 2007. The man is suspected of complicity in the case. The detective suspects that he worked with Brückner, with whom he had several contacts at the time. He may have tipped the German off about a suitable time to enter the McCanns' apartment. The former employee of the complex has also been linked in the past to sex crimes with minors in the Algarve.


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Another person not thoroughly investigated by PJ at the time??

Going on that it looks as if Madeleine was targeted and it looks as if a holiday complex worker was involved.

[faithlilly]

That's a fantastic idea.

I always donate to worthy causes & I've got plenty of spare cash lying around since I've been in lockdown for 4 months.
I'll have to look that group up & offer this innocent man my full support.

 

[kizzy]

Going on that it looks as if Madeleine was targeted and it looks as if a holiday complex worker was involved.

Going by that - no one for a start knows what time Maddie disappeared. [or do you no better B]

Why always go on just what you read- or someone says.

[Gertrude]

There should be no competition between the police forces. They should all work together in solving this crime.
PJ unit that was in charge of Madeleine's case did more harm to the reputation of the area than all news stories together, for trying to hide the real picture.
I would not highlight the articles criticizing the current German prosecutor, he is right, the serial sex offender should be in jail and I hope they succeed in their efforts.

No-one here is disputing the man should be in jail but you can't jail people for other crimes just because they have a record. That's what the Ex Judge is saying.
 And if there is no competition ( or differences) between the police forces why is it only the Germans saying she's dead?

[pathfinder73]

Going on that it looks as if Madeleine was targeted and it looks as if a holiday complex worker was involved.

That is a big accusation to make without evidence. The group claim that they did regular checks and at different times. How would he or an OC employee know what was the best time to strike? Did Jez see him in the area when walking the streets? How about Totman, Moyes on the balcony or the checkers? Nobody claims to have seen him or his vehicle so how the Germans can say he did it is a massive leap of faith.

[kizzy]

These are emotive times so please keep replies and comments constructive and above all, civil. TY

PS.  Anyone heard what this evidence is that allows the German prosecutor to claim for certain that Madeleine is deceased?

I watched this on GMB yesterday morning seems the evidence is here say. More or less same today coming from Germany





+1The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. - 

Transcript from item on GMB


Reporter in Berlin:

Investigators and prosecutors here are absolutely certain they have the right man. But so far they haven’t charged him there isn’t even an arrest warrant on him which isn’t necessary because he's  in jail anyhow for another charge.
 
But so far they are still missing, you know, the one important thing, which would be either the body or a confession by Christian Brueckner.


So far we know they haven’t even talked to Christian Brueckner they haven't even questioned him on Maddie because they are still trying to put together more and more of the pieces so they can put pressure on him and maybe get a confession from him.  Because so far they are certain that it’s him but it’s not enough to prosecute him.
 
Studio  -  Why without evidence are they certain?


Well there is lots of very critical pieces of evidence that put him in the direct vicinity of the crime but also apparently he has talked about what he has committed 13 years ago to other people and that is something investigators have pieced together in the past two years.


This investigation has secretly been going on since 2018, and we have learned from one person who, from what we know has been questioned by authorities, that she has been in an argument at a small news stand that Christian Brueckner used to run here in Germany selling newspapers, and chewing gum, and cigarettes, and they got into a discussion about the Maddie case and he boasted to them that.. he basically freaked out and said he doesn’t want anyone to talk in his little news stand about that case that that girl is dead.


And this is a quote -  “and this is good, that people will never find her again because there are ways to make human beings bodies disappear.”


And the police from what we understand has talked to numerous people has looked at …has checked protocols.


So, I think they have a kind of indirect confession from him that also includes insight, that only the actual murderer of Maddie -  they’re treating this as a murder investigation - that only the actual murderer of Maddie McCann would know.


But so far again this is not enough…the Chief Constable told us yesterday – that this is not enough yet to successfully charge him and then prosecute.

[VIXTE]

No-one here is disputing the man should be in jail but you can't jail people for other crimes just because they have a record. That's what the Ex Judge is saying.
 And if there is no competition ( or differences) between the police forces why is it only the Germans saying she's dead?

Neither you, me or the ex-judge would know about the current evidence that the current prosecutor has pointing at this guy.
They would not pick him up just out of the blue.

MADELEINE McCann cops have no clue where her body is buried but do know how she was killed, it is claimed.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11816386/madeleine-mccann-cops-body-killed/

[pathfinder73]

So, I think they have a kind of indirect confession from him that also includes insight, that only the actual murderer of Maddie -  they’re treating this as a murder investigation - that only the actual murderer of Maddie McCann would know.

Only the murderer of MM would know? The PJ files were released in 2008. Anybody could read the files and learn about this case! They don't know if she was murdered without a body so what would only the murderer know?