New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[kizzy]

Using initials to illustrate points snatched from thin air is counter productive.  But now you mention it ... please provide a cite for what you say Clarence Mitchell claimed.  Thank you

Who me provide a site for what- a site who CM was fgs

You asked who CM  - obvious to me Clarence Mitchel - but seems not to you.

I haven't claimed  CM claimed anything - it seems like you will have to backtrack instead of giving orders

[Holly Goodhead]

Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria are keeping Madeleine's family in the loop ... the German police are not party to those understandings and at the moment this is a German investigation.

Given OG's stance on the case it would seem somewhat of an indictment if the McCanns were without FLO's given the media coverage.

[Gertrude]

Yes I appreciate that but the potential for contamination still exists.

In order to rule out contamination it would be necessary to carry out a complete audit on all fixtures, fittings and contents. 

The odour is highly transferable by way of items from one place to another.  It clearly lingers and is highly transferable as per the police report into the case of Shannon Matthews.

I bet if those mutts were let lose in charity shops, containing a lot of second hand items from the deceased, they would go ballistic.

I often take items into those places and hold my breath while doing so as the stench makes me want to heave: the scent of death 

 This is sort of off topic but weren't all the apartments furnished with matching furniture?  So it is highly likely that it came from one supplier and could be traced. Unless it was 2nd hand furniture from a nursing home or something, then you could have a problem with transference.

[faithlilly]

Yes I appreciate that but the potential for contamination still exists.

In order to rule out contamination it would be necessary to carry out a complete audit on all fixtures, fittings and contents. 

The odour is highly transferable by way of items from one place to another.  It clearly lingers and is highly transferable as per the police report into the case of Shannon Matthews.

I bet if those mutts were let lose in charity shops, containing a lot of second hand items from the deceased, they would go ballistic.

I often take items into those places and hold my breath while doing so as the stench makes me want to heave: the scent of death 

To believe that you’d have to also believe that Murat’s and all the other apartments that Eddie visited but didn’t alert in were devoid of second hand furniture or had a connection to someone who had died.

So Eddie, wrongly, alerted in the only apartment with second hand furniture, that had a connection to a dead person and that a child, now feared dead, had disappeared from ? Is that really what you believe ?

[Brietta]

Who me provide a site for what- a site who CM was fgs

You asked who CM  - obvious to me Clarence Mitchel - but seems not to you.

I haven't claimed  CM claimed anything - it seems like you will have to backtrack instead of giving orders

You have posted that Clarence Mitchell was given files by CEOP which was denied.
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Does anyone remember CM telling us that the CEOP agency were sharing information with him? I was so incensed that I wrote to them about how inappropriate this was. After passing my email further up the hierarchy they denied that they did share information with CM. So either he was lying... or they were imo.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg599390#msg599390

As per forum rules ... I have requested a cite to substantiate your allegation.  That request still stands.  Thank you

[Holly Goodhead]

To believe that you’d have to also believe that Murat’s and all the other apartments that Eddie visited but didn’t alert in were devoid of second hand furniture or had a connection to someone who had died.

So Eddie, wrongly, alerted in the only apartment with second hand furniture, that had a connection to a dead person and that a child, now feared dead, had disappeared from ? Is that really what you believe ?

Based on the police report into the dog alerts re the case of Shannon Matthews yes.

The odour is highly transferrable.  To rule out contamination it would be necessary to carry out a complete audit on all items in the vicinity the dogs alerted to. 

[faithlilly]

Based on the police report into the dog alerts re the case of Shannon Matthews yes.

The odour is highly transferrable.  To rule out contamination it would be necessary to carry out a complete audit on all items in the vicinity the dogs alerted to.

Do you rule out old furniture etc in the apartments where Eddie didn’t alert ?

[Brietta]

I really can't believe that. There's nothing to stop the Germans telling Scotland Y we have XYZ evidence and we're sure because ABC..... so they could pass it onto the family. why on earth would SY agree to do a joint appeal with a force that wouldn't even summarise what evidence they have?

The only answer for me, is that Scotland yard have been told the gist of the evidence and have not found it much use.....

''The force said it remained a "missing persons" investigation because it does not have "definitive evidence" as to whether Madeleine is alive or not.''

Quite.  So really nothing has changed as far as Scotland Yard are concerned.  I'm not prepared to speculate on the reason for that but no doubt there is one.

[Brietta]

This is sort of off topic but weren't all the apartments furnished with matching furniture?  So it is highly likely that it came from one supplier and could be traced. Unless it was 2nd hand furniture from a nursing home or something, then you could have a problem with transference.

It has all been done to death already.  All it would have taken for transference would have been for one of the policemen in attendance with the dogs to have been at the scene of a fatal RTA ...  and Bob's your uncle.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I really can't believe that. There's nothing to stop the Germans telling Scotland Y we have XYZ evidence and we're sure because ABC..... so they could pass it onto the family. why on earth would SY agree to do a joint appeal with a force that wouldn't even summarise what evidence they have?

The only answer for me, is that Scotland yard have been told the gist of the evidence and have not found it much use.....

''The force said it remained a "missing persons" investigation because it does not have "definitive evidence" as to whether Madeleine is alive or not.''

Definitive evidence is another way of saying proof.  They could (for eg) have a picture of a person with its eyes closed and covered in blood and injuries but that would not be definitive evidence that the person in the picture was dead

[Vertigo Swirl]

It has all been done to death already.  All it would have taken for transference would have been for one of the policemen in attendance with the dogs to have been at the scene of a fatal RTA ...  and Bob's your uncle.

Or a psychopath with a penchant for murder and trophy-keeping.

[faithlilly]

It has all been done to death already.  All it would have taken for transference would have been for one of the policemen in attendance with the dogs to have been at the scene of a fatal RTA ...  and Bob's your uncle.

Bit of a coincidence.

I would assume the same policeman would have visited all the apartments with Grime.

[kizzy]

You have posted that Clarence Mitchell was given files by CEOP which was denied.
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Does anyone remember CM telling us that the CEOP agency were sharing information with him? I was so incensed that I wrote to them about how inappropriate this was. After passing my email further up the hierarchy they denied that they did share information with CM. So either he was lying... or they were imo.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg599390#msg599390

As per forum rules ... I have requested a cite to substantiate your allegation.  That request still stands.  Thank you

You are not only wrong your very very wrong - go back AND LOOK that is not my post B

[Brietta]

You are not only wrong your very very wrong - go back AND LOOK that is not my post B

I do apologise.  But all you had to do was say.

[kizzy]

I do apologise.  But all you had to do was say.

No worries B - but I did say post 1950 a couple of hours ago. top of this page


I haven't claimed  CM claimed anything - it seems like you will have to backtrack instead of giving orders