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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1980 on: June 13, 2020, 09:11:49 PM »
Here are Clarence Mitchell's exact words:

‘I’ve also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.’

I found it myself, thank you, which is just as well because you still haven't.  It doesn't really reflect the tone of your post either though, does it?

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Maddie’s parents ‘not suspects’
Wednesday 30 Jan 2008
British police don’t suspect the McCanns
British police and child protection officers do not suspect Madeleine McCann’s parents of involvement in her disappearance, the couple’s spokesman said.
Clarence Mitchell said officials had assured him in private briefings that they were treating the case as one of “rare stranger abduction”. He was speaking as he launched an outspoken attack on the “appalling” standards of some media coverage over the disappearance of Kate and Gerry McCann’s daughter in Portugal in May. Mr Mitchell, who acted as the couple’s spokesman shortly after Madeleine went missing and reprised this role four-and-a-half months ago, said he was completely convinced of their innocence.
He told a packed theatre: “I have never once seen or heard anything from either of them to give me any cause for suspicion in any shape or form. “I have also had briefings privately from the police and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) centre that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.”

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2008/01/30/maddies-parents-not-suspects-437145/?ito=cbshare
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1981 on: June 13, 2020, 09:21:45 PM »
I found it myself, thank you, which is just as well because you still haven't.  It doesn't really reflect the tone of your post either though, does it?

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Maddie’s parents ‘not suspects’
Wednesday 30 Jan 2008
British police don’t suspect the McCanns
British police and child protection officers do not suspect Madeleine McCann’s parents of involvement in her disappearance, the couple’s spokesman said.
Clarence Mitchell said officials had assured him in private briefings that they were treating the case as one of “rare stranger abduction”. He was speaking as he launched an outspoken attack on the “appalling” standards of some media coverage over the disappearance of Kate and Gerry McCann’s daughter in Portugal in May. Mr Mitchell, who acted as the couple’s spokesman shortly after Madeleine went missing and reprised this role four-and-a-half months ago, said he was completely convinced of their innocence.
He told a packed theatre: “I have never once seen or heard anything from either of them to give me any cause for suspicion in any shape or form. “I have also had briefings privately from the police and the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (CEOP) centre that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.”

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2008/01/30/maddies-parents-not-suspects-437145/?ito=cbshare

What do you mean I didn’t find it? I posted the exact quote! My point is that a PR man should not receive private briefings during an active criminal investigation. If the CEOP has evidence of stranger abduction they should share that with the Police not a PR consultant and I wrote (email) at the time to tell them that.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1982 on: June 13, 2020, 09:44:22 PM »
What do you mean I didn’t find it? I posted the exact quote! My point is that a PR man should not receive private briefings during an active criminal investigation. If the CEOP has evidence of stranger abduction they should share that with the Police not a PR consultant and I wrote (email) at the time to tell them that.

Indeed! Did you get a reply?  Ofcourse it is only words from CM -can he be taken seriously and at his word? IMO No.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1983 on: June 13, 2020, 09:52:34 PM »
What do you mean I didn’t find it? I posted the exact quote! My point is that a PR man should not receive private briefings during an active criminal investigation. If the CEOP has evidence of stranger abduction they should share that with the Police not a PR consultant and I wrote (email) at the time to tell them that.

I seem to recall Jim Gamble admitting at one point that he got too close to the McCanns.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1984 on: June 13, 2020, 09:58:22 PM »
Indeed! Did you get a reply?  Ofcourse it is only words from CM -can he be taken seriously and at his word? IMO No.

I got three replies. Two that dodged the question. The second of these promised though to send my concern up the organisational hierarchy, Then after that the third reply assured me that they did not give private briefings to PR consultants in on-going criminal cases.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1985 on: June 13, 2020, 10:07:34 PM »
Here are Clarence Mitchell's exact words:

‘I’ve also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.’

So its OK for a policeman to write a book but not for  apoliceman to speak to clarence about the case.....that is laughable. It seems you cannot accept that pretty well all your reasoning re the case is totally flawed imo.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1986 on: June 13, 2020, 10:12:11 PM »
So its OK for a policeman to write a book but not for  apoliceman to speak to clarence about the case.....that is laughable. It seems you cannot accept that pretty well all your reasoning re the case is totally flawed imo.

In an on-going criminal investigation any evidence (of stranger abduction) that the CEOP had (not the Police) should have been handed over to the Police and not a PR consultant.

If the German sex offender had a PR consultant wouldn't you be horrified if professional bodies shared possible evidential information with him?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1987 on: June 13, 2020, 10:15:25 PM »
In an on-going criminal investigation any evidence (of stranger abduction) that the CEOP had (not the Police) should have been handed over to the Police and not a PR consultant.

If the German sex offender had a PR consultant wouldn't you be horrified if professional bodies shared possible evidential information with him?

who says evidence was handed over...he was simply told that McCanns were not suspects. The PJ have said the same to the Press a couple of years ago whilst this investigation is still live

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1988 on: June 13, 2020, 10:29:03 PM »
who says evidence was handed over...he was simply told that McCanns were not suspects. The PJ have said the same to the Press a couple of years ago whilst this investigation is still live

Not so. He claimed he had private briefings and in these he was told that the CEOP believed it was a case of "stranger abduction" (therby implying the parents weren't involved.

Here's his exact words:

"I've also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it."

If the CEOP did give CM private briefings on information regarding an on-going criminal investigation then they must have had some evidence to base it on. Their information should therefore have been shared with the Police not a PR consultant!! This would cause huge prejudicial legal problems if a case went to trial.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1989 on: June 13, 2020, 10:33:13 PM »
Not so. He claimed he had private briefings and in these he was told that the CEOP believed it was a case of "stranger abduction" (therby implying the parents weren't involved.

Here's his exact words:

"I've also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it."

If the CEOP did give CM private briefings on information regarding an on-going criminal investigation then they must have had some evidence to base it on. Their information should therefore have been shared with the Police not a PR consultant!! This would cause huge prejudicial legal problems if a case went to trial.

there is lots ov evidence the parents are not involved...you are just unwilling to accept it. you believe statistics show they are highly probable to be involved...thats absolute rubbish

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1990 on: June 13, 2020, 10:36:57 PM »
there is lots ov evidence the parents are not involved...you are just unwilling to accept it. you believe statistics show they are highly probable to be involved...thats absolute rubbish

Here are his words again!!!

’I've also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.’

He doesn't talk about the parents - he talks about stranger abduction. If the CEOP had evidence of stranger abduction they should have shared that with the Police and not a PR consultant.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1991 on: June 13, 2020, 10:41:38 PM »
Here are his words again!!!

’I've also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.’

He doesn't talk about the parents - he talks about stranger abduction. If the CEOP had evidence of stranger abduction they should have shared that with the Police and not a PR consultant.

perhaps they did...or perhaps the investigation shared it with them. As i have said looking at all the evidence its patently  clear that the McCanns are not involved..

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1992 on: June 13, 2020, 10:49:07 PM »
perhaps they did...or perhaps the investigation shared it with them. As i have said looking at all the evidence its patently  clear that the McCanns are not involved..

If they did then that's a massive professional error and one that could be considered highly prejudicial should any case go to trial. I work in healthcare we would never share safeguarding concerns with the media or PR consultants. I'm certain the same standards must apply to the CEOP.


Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1993 on: June 13, 2020, 10:51:18 PM »
Here are his words again!!!

’I've also had briefings privately from the police and CEOP, Child Exploitation Online Potection Centre, before I went out the first time, that also gave me complete reassurance that the authorities, in this country certainly, are treating this as a case of rare stranger abduction, as they call it.’

He doesn't talk about the parents - he talks about stranger abduction. If the CEOP had evidence of stranger abduction they should have shared that with the Police and not a PR consultant.

It sounds like the British authorities had already decided what crime had been committed by the end of May 2007.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1994 on: June 13, 2020, 10:53:28 PM »
If they did then that's a massive professional error and one that could be considered highly prejudicial should any case go to trial. I work in healthcare we would never share safeguarding concerns with the media or PR consultants. I'm certain the same standards must apply to the CEOP.

I work in healthcare too...I dont see CEOP crossed any lines.