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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13305 on: June 04, 2021, 10:21:31 AM »
That doesn't tell you what evidence he has. As far ss Im aware he doesnt have enough to convict at the moment... And is looking for more evidence. He has said his evidence shows CB murdered MM

Unless Wolters finds enough evidence to charge his suspect the evidence he claims to have will never be revealed imo. That's why I see no point in discussing it, speculating about it or relying on it.



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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13306 on: June 04, 2021, 10:24:06 AM »
Im surprised at your lack of judgement. This is the year when a lot of questions will be answered. I seem to remember you saying the McCanns had no chance of success at the ECHR..
I think the ECHR will be highly critical of Amaral and the SC in their judgement

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Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13307 on: June 04, 2021, 10:30:32 AM »
I don't think Amaral was equipped to deal with the complexities of a missing child case and I think he was in desperation to have Madeleine's case concluded 'successfully' which he thought would deflect from his forthcoming perjury trial resulting from the torture of Leonor Cipriano.

I think he was the worst possible person to have been appointed as co-ordinator of Madeleine's case ~ he just didn't have the skills base.

AFAIK, he was the only coordinator in Portimão. If so, the alternative would have been to send another one down from Faro... but I suppose the optics wouldn't have been too good just as the Cipriano saga was looming.

I doubt Amaral was involved, but I do sometimes wonder if he was aware of Brückner being a possibility and chose not to investigate him. There are a couple of things I find odd, although I suppose they could be coincidences:

- Despite Brückner's long history of drug-dealing, I can't find any mention of him being arrested for it in the Algarve. Were some officers taking backhanders?

- Brückner could well have been in the vicinity of where Joana disappeared (he certainly was earlier in the year)... and investigating him for Madeleine's disappearance might have brought up Joana's case again.


Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13308 on: June 04, 2021, 10:35:07 AM »
I think GA had access to the files only in the first 5 months, and I am not sure he read them in that period. After being fired he lost access to the files until July, 2008, where they were made public ... It seems that in the beggining he was searching for a rapid solution, so he took into account the sayings of a journalist, and focused all his efforts in Murat ... When it became obvious that Murat was not guilty, he desperately tried to involved the McCanns, focusing all his efforts in them, with no results ... The first five months lost ... No alternative hypothesis was tested: for example, burglary that went wrong, paedo, or a combination of the two ... CB has an "interesting profile", like the OC driver, JCFdS ... But a "profile" is not enough.

I agree with most of that except that I suspect he took a copy of the files up to that point with him (or at least the parts he was interested in) as I don't see how his book could have been written, edited, and published in such a short time otherwise.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13309 on: June 04, 2021, 10:47:12 AM »
Whatever the outcome of the ECHR may be, the court will not even mention Amaral. They are to pronounce judgment on the decision made by the SC of Porugal.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13310 on: June 04, 2021, 11:10:07 AM »
Unless Wolters finds enough evidence to charge his suspect the evidence he claims to have will never be revealed imo. That's why I see no point in discussing it, speculating about it or relying on it.

I disgree. If CB isnt charged... What will SY do... What will the parents do. Even without CB being charged I feel Wolters will have to reveal his information. You seem to think its ok for posters to claim HCW has no evidence but not OK for posters to disagree

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13311 on: June 04, 2021, 11:15:47 AM »
Whatever the outcome of the ECHR may be, the court will not even mention Amaral. They are to pronounce judgment on the decision made by the SC of Porugal.
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Im sure you are wrong.. The judgement is about the balance the SC made between the right of Amaral and those e of the McCanns. One of the important reasons to support amarals freedom of speech was the evidence amaral relied on to make his accusations.
For that reason the ECHR will need to look at the evidence in the case and whether Amaral was reasonable to reach his conclusions

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13312 on: June 04, 2021, 11:21:07 AM »
I think GA had access to the files only in the first 5 months, and I am not sure he read them in that period. After being fired he lost access to the files until July, 2008, where they were made public ... It seems that in the beggining he was searching for a rapid solution, so he took into account the sayings of a journalist, and focused all his efforts in Murat ... When it became obvious that Murat was not guilty, he desperately tried to involved the McCanns, focusing all his efforts in them, with no results ... The first five months lost ... No alternative hypothesis was tested: for example, burglary that went wrong, paedo, or a combination of the two ... CB has an "interesting profile", like the OC driver, JCFdS ... But a "profile" is not enough.

My view is that by believing the hype around thr dogs Amaral believed he had proof Maddie died in the apartment and the
parents eere to blame.
Have you listened to all HCW had said.. I cant see any way he only has a profile.. That would be plainly ridiculous imo

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13313 on: June 04, 2021, 11:31:24 AM »
My view is that by believing the hype around thr dogs Amaral believed he had proof Maddie died in the apartment and the
parents eere to blame.
Have you listened to all HCW had said.. I cant see any way he only has a profile.. That would be plainly ridiculous imo

That would be plainly ridiculous imo

Seems its been plainly ridiculous from a year ago as yesterday.

It was plain to see then wolt took a gamble that certainly hasn't paid off.

Its about time to just let it go - like all the other so called suspects of the past.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13314 on: June 04, 2021, 11:40:24 AM »
Im sure you are wrong.. The judgement is about the balance the SC made between the right of Amaral and those e of the McCanns. One of the important reasons to support amarals freedom of speech was the evidence amaral relied on to make his accusations.
For that reason the ECHR will need to look at the evidence in the case and whether Amaral was reasonable to reach his conclusions

Logical response as usual.

There would have been no question of Portugal breaching the McCann's human rights without the interpretation put on Amaral's appeal by the Supreme court judges; for that reason I think Amaral will be featured in the ECHR.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13315 on: June 04, 2021, 11:47:36 AM »
That would be plainly ridiculous imo

Seems its been plainly ridiculous from a year ago as yesterday.

It was plain to see then wolt took a gamble that certainly hasn't paid off.

Its about time to just let it go - like all the other so called suspects of the past.

You may hope that Wolters won't succeed in discovering what happened to Madeleine.  But I really don't think you are in any position to 'advise' Wolters "to let it go" since you have absolutely no idea what he is working on or where it may lead.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13316 on: June 04, 2021, 11:48:19 AM »
Logical response as usual.

There would have been no question of Portugal breaching the McCann's human rights without the interpretation put on Amaral's appeal by the Supreme court judges; for that reason I think Amaral will be featured in the ECHR.

Well with a bit of luck we'll soon see how wrong you are. 
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13317 on: June 04, 2021, 11:49:47 AM »
Do you think that Amaral or Cristavoa could have been involved in this?

Just a passing thought.

Absolutely not. Amaral had a reasonably successful career until the Madeleine case came along. He was also a victim of the McCanns stupidity.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13318 on: June 04, 2021, 11:55:31 AM »
I agree with most of that except that I suspect he took a copy of the files up to that point with him (or at least the parts he was interested in) as I don't see how his book could have been written, edited, and published in such a short time otherwise.

The GA book only contains a very small part of the PJ files first 5 months.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13319 on: June 04, 2021, 12:09:51 PM »
Absolutely not. Amaral had a reasonably successful career until the Madeleine case came along. He was also a victim of the McCanns stupidity.

And of their vindictiveness -  IMO
« Last Edit: June 04, 2021, 12:13:24 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future