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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13530 on: June 08, 2021, 12:20:39 PM »
Pretty tenuous and no confirmed link between the two men, and just a possibility that they may find something of interest to the Madeleine McCann case.

“Forensic analysis of computers in Paraguay and Germany led to the identification of more than 5,000 connected IP addresses that were exchanging pedophile videos and photos.

“We have not ruled out the possibility that among all this large data, there may be important information for the Madeleine case.”
https://www.fr24news.com/a/2021/05/police-destroy-global-pedophile-gang-who-may-have-ties-to-madeleine-mccann-fr.html

How could there be any connection when according to you Amaral  His team and Uk police have proof Maddies cadaver was in 5a

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13531 on: June 08, 2021, 12:51:07 PM »
How could there be any connection when according to you Amaral  His team and Uk police have proof Maddies cadaver was in 5a

There could be a connection between Kruse and CB that's nothing to do with the case of Madeleine McCann. There is no proof that Madeleine's cadaver was in 5A, and I've not said there was.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13532 on: June 08, 2021, 12:58:37 PM »
There could be a connection between Kruse and CB that's nothing to do with the case of Madeleine McCann. There is no proof that Madeleine's cadaver was in 5A, and I've not said there was.

You have supported Amarals claim that there was... I find that ridiculous and goes against everything every expert has ever said

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13533 on: June 08, 2021, 01:14:33 PM »
I am listening to Paraguayan Constable Nimio Cardozo. I translate:

Q: You [the Police] would have helped to find some things from this pedophile [CB] that had ramifications in Paraguay ...

A: We, yes ...

Is that all he said or was it the start of a fuller answer ?

Incidentally he is a Commissioner of Police, not a Constable.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2021, 01:32:59 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13534 on: June 08, 2021, 02:46:19 PM »
You have supported Amarals claim that there was... I find that ridiculous and goes against everything every expert has ever said

There's a difference between agreeing with someone and supporting their right to express their opinion.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13535 on: June 08, 2021, 02:59:08 PM »
There could be a connection between Kruse and CB that's nothing to do with the case of Madeleine McCann. There is no proof that Madeleine's cadaver was in 5A, and I've not said there was.
But you have said this

LThat's your opinion, but you can't deny that the dogs alerted. You also can't deny what they were trained to alert to.
It's reasonable to assume that they found what they were trained to find.”.

So if it’s reasonable to assume there was a cadaver in Apartment 5 A is it also reasonable to assume it was Madeleine’s?

"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13536 on: June 08, 2021, 03:44:30 PM »
But you have said this

LThat's your opinion, but you can't deny that the dogs alerted. You also can't deny what they were trained to alert to.
It's reasonable to assume that they found what they were trained to find.”.

So if it’s reasonable to assume there was a cadaver in Apartment 5 A is it also reasonable to assume it was Madeleine’s?

It's reasonable to assume that the dogs detected cadaver scent and human blood in 5A, but it doesn't follow that there was a cadaver there.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13537 on: June 08, 2021, 03:49:54 PM »
It's reasonable to assume that the dogs detected cadaver scent and human blood in 5A, but it doesn't follow that there was a cadaver there.

Amaral said that at a meeting with UK police it was confirmed that a cavaer had been in 5a and as no one else had died there it confirms the body of MM...which of course is not true.....The files tell us taht at a meeting the UK police told the PJ the alerts confirmed nothing. Stop wriggling and admit what amaral said was not true

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13538 on: June 08, 2021, 03:56:25 PM »
It's reasonable to assume that the dogs detected cadaver scent and human blood in 5A, but it doesn't follow that there was a cadaver there.

this is waht GA says in his book...

English and Portuguese police get together to analyse the results of Eddie and Keela's searches.

- What we can deduce at this stage is that only the McCanns are implicated. The dogs did not detect blood or cadaver odour other than with them.

- From now on we have the certainty that there was a body behind the sofa before being taken into the parents' bedroom.



im sure you undersatnd what certainty means.....this is not what harrison says about the meeting...what amaral says in his book is UNTRUE....absolutely no doubt about it...but you think his assumption is reasoanble...imo your credibility has sunk to zero

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13539 on: June 08, 2021, 03:56:59 PM »
It's reasonable to assume that the dogs detected cadaver scent and human blood in 5A, but it doesn't follow that there was a cadaver there.
So it would therefore be unreasonable to accuse the McCanns of disposing of the body of their daughter based on the dog alerts, is that what you are saying?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13540 on: June 08, 2021, 04:44:51 PM »
this is waht GA says in his book...

English and Portuguese police get together to analyse the results of Eddie and Keela's searches.

- What we can deduce at this stage is that only the McCanns are implicated. The dogs did not detect blood or cadaver odour other than with them.

- From now on we have the certainty that there was a body behind the sofa before being taken into the parents' bedroom.



im sure you undersatnd what certainty means.....this is not what harrison says about the meeting...what amaral says in his book is UNTRUE....absolutely no doubt about it...but you think his assumption is reasoanble...imo your credibility has sunk to zero

Now don't you think it odd they never alerted  anywhere apart from mccs and there possessions.


Two specialist English sniffer dogs were summoned to Praia da Luz in August 2007 to try and help work out what had happened to Madeleine McCann.
The springer spaniels, named Eddie and Keela, and their handler Martin Grime had been handpicked by the UK police force's national search expert, Mark Harrison.
During their intensive search the two dogs made 13 alerts in several key locations of interest in the case.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13541 on: June 08, 2021, 04:52:01 PM »
this is waht GA says in his book...

English and Portuguese police get together to analyse the results of Eddie and Keela's searches.

- What we can deduce at this stage is that only the McCanns are implicated. The dogs did not detect blood or cadaver odour other than with them.

- From now on we have the certainty that there was a body behind the sofa before being taken into the parents' bedroom.



im sure you undersatnd what certainty means.....this is not what harrison says about the meeting...what amaral says in his book is UNTRUE....absolutely no doubt about it...but you think his assumption is reasoanble...imo your credibility has sunk to zero


His book was wrote from police files ...the book is there for anyone to read.

As you know GA won three battles ...the book is there to stay imo.

Why anyone should worry about your opinion of credibility .....god only knows.

IMO your posts push the wolt theory far to much for you to have any credability D

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13542 on: June 08, 2021, 04:53:02 PM »
this is waht GA says in his book...

English and Portuguese police get together to analyse the results of Eddie and Keela's searches.

- What we can deduce at this stage is that only the McCanns are implicated. The dogs did not detect blood or cadaver odour other than with them.

- From now on we have the certainty that there was a body behind the sofa before being taken into the parents' bedroom.



im sure you undersatnd what certainty means.....this is not what harrison says about the meeting...what amaral says in his book is UNTRUE....absolutely no doubt about it...but you think his assumption is reasoanble...imo your credibility has sunk to zero

I give it Minus 10.  Although even that is a bit over the top.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13543 on: June 08, 2021, 04:59:58 PM »
Now don't you think it odd they never alerted  anywhere apart from mccs and there possessions.


Two specialist English sniffer dogs were summoned to Praia da Luz in August 2007 to try and help work out what had happened to Madeleine McCann.
The springer spaniels, named Eddie and Keela, and their handler Martin Grime had been handpicked by the UK police force's national search expert, Mark Harrison.
During their intensive search the two dogs made 13 alerts in several key locations of interest in the case.


No I dont think it at all odd... I think its very easily explained..

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13544 on: June 08, 2021, 05:01:56 PM »

His book was wrote from police files ...the book is there for anyone to read.

As you know GA won three battles ...the book is there to stay imo.

Why anyone should worry about your opinion of credibility .....god only knows.

IMO your posts push the wolt theory far to much for you to have any credability D
If the ECHR rule in favour of the Mcs then the book is ridiculed and is not there to stay