New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[G-Unit]

Is there any possibility of you providing a cite from someone who was close to these broken - smashed - or jemmied shutters on the night that Madeleine vanished.

You know what I mean - an eye witness - not a distraught woman hundreds of miles removed relaying a message from a distraught man in the worst circumstances it is possible to imagine.

What's this thing with "the McCann couple".  Is that normal parlance for you or something picked up from somewhere else.
Just a rhetorical question so dinna fash yourself with it ~ merely an intrigued passing thought 😁

As I said, people believe what they want to believe and are quite happy to cast doubt on the words or understanding of those they don't want to believe.

[Eleanor]

As I said, people believe what they want to believe and are quite happy to cast doubt on the words or understanding of those they don't want to believe.

Right back at ya.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think people believe what they want to believe.

In 2007 four people told the media that they learned from the McCanns that the shutters of apartment 5A had been broken, smashed or jemmied.

Strangely, some of those who support the McCann couple then spent years casting doubt on the stories of those four people.

What ARE you on about?  Which 4 people?  I don’t doubt for a minute that panic and confusion of that night led to some confusion or misunderstanding in the minds of both those telling the news and those repeating it back to others - that is quite normal and understandable.  You clearly choose however to believe it’s suspicious.  “I think people believe what they want to believe”, well yes, that certainly includes yourself.

[G-Unit]

What ARE you on about?  Which 4 people?  I don’t doubt for a minute that panic and confusion of that night led to some confusion or misunderstanding in the minds of both those telling the news and those repeating it back to others - that is quite normal and understandable.  You clearly choose however to believe it’s suspicious.  “I think people believe what they want to believe”, well yes, that certainly includes yourself.

I believe Patricia Cameron, Brian Healy, Jill Renwick and Jon Corner were quite capable of hearing and repeating what they were told. Why others don't believe that escapes me.

[Mr Gray]

I believe Patricia Cameron, Brian Healy, Jill Renwick and Jon Corner were quite capable of hearing and repeating what they were told. Why others don't believe that escapes me.

Ypu need to take off your blinkers....then you might understand others point if view. Gerry never lied about jemmied shutters... He thought they were security shutters so couldnt be opened from the outside but had to be forced.

It really is that simple. Imo it really is a joke tjat some see this as evidence... But I do understand why they do.

[Eleanor]

I believe Patricia Cameron, Brian Healy, Jill Renwick and Jon Corner were quite capable of hearing and repeating what they were told. Why others don't believe that escapes me.

Anything related to logic seems to escape you.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I believe Patricia Cameron, Brian Healy, Jill Renwick and Jon Corner were quite capable of hearing and repeating what they were told. Why others don't believe that escapes me.

Do you believe it's possible that whoever told them the shutters had been "jemmied" might initially have thought they were forced open?  Or is that simply not possible in your view?  If not, why not?  If it was a deliberate attempt to mislead re: the shutters (something easily refuted) to what end?  Why did the deception not stretch to ACTUALLY breaking the shutters instead of only talking about it to 4 people back in Britain who would have absolutely no bearing on events in PdL? 
I won't hold my breath for anything resembling a straight answer to any of these questions...

[Mr Gray]

I believe Patricia Cameron, Brian Healy, Jill Renwick and Jon Corner were quite capable of hearing and repeating what they were told. Why others don't believe that escapes me.

Thats the difference between us. I completely understand why some believe Maddie died in an accident.. The Dunning Kruger effect for one reason. Im sure amaral sincerely believes the McCanns are guilty.. And once again I understand why

[Eleanor]

Do you believe it's possible that whoever told them the shutters had been "jemmied" might initially have thought they were forced open?  Or is that simply not possible in your view?  If not, why not?  If it was a deliberate attempt to mislead re: the shutters (something easily refuted) to what end?  Why did the deception not stretch to ACTUALLY breaking the shutters instead of only talking about it to 4 people back in Britain who would have absolutely no bearing on events in PdL? 
I won't hold my breath for anything resembling a straight answer to any of these questions...

Too logical by half.  G Unit doesn't do Logic.

[G-Unit]

Do you believe it's possible that whoever told them the shutters had been "jemmied" might initially have thought they were forced open? Or is that simply not possible in your view?  If not, why not?  If it was a deliberate attempt to mislead re: the shutters (something easily refuted) to what end?  Why did the deception not stretch to ACTUALLY breaking the shutters instead of only talking about it to 4 people back in Britain who would have absolutely no bearing on events in PdL? 
I won't hold my breath for anything resembling a straight answer to any of these questions...

So you do believe it was said?

[Eleanor]

Jemmied is a Glaswegian word for broken into and not necessarily with a jemmy.  Presuming that you know what a jemmy is.

Perhaps you all didn't know that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

So you do believe it was said?

Firstly - you didn't answer any of my questions.  Secondly, why do you expect me to answer yours?  Thirdly, yes I believe he could have said it, or words to that effect. Fourthly, I really don;t think it's remotely important what he actually said, why do you place such importance on it?

More questions for you to ignore.  At least I always answer yours, eh?

[Mr Gray]

So you do believe it was said?

I dint see it as being of any importance whatsoever.. Ive explained why he might have said it

[G-Unit]

Jemmied is a Glaswegian word for broken into and not necessarily with a jemmy.  Presuming that you know what a jemmy is.

Perhaps you all didn't know that.

Jemmied is a British English word meaning 'to prise (something) open with a jemmy'. A jemmy is 'a short steel crowbar used, esp by burglars, for forcing doors and windows'

 

[Eleanor]

Jemmied is a British English word meaning 'to prise (something) open with a jemmy'. A jemmy is 'a short steel crowbar used, esp by burglars, for forcing doors and windows'

You don't know much about Glaswegians either.