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Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15960 on: May 07, 2022, 09:41:47 AM »
I. think it's you who is the gullible pleb for believing all the anti McCann propaganda

Please don't insult gullible plebs.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15961 on: May 07, 2022, 09:44:13 AM »
So your bekief in the McCann's guilt is not based on any real evidence

What evidence is there Maddie was abducted?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15962 on: May 07, 2022, 09:55:00 AM »

Because the McCanns said so & SY said so & Wolters said so.

That's where we are at, about same place we were 15 years ago.

That's what 14 million quid buys us.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15963 on: May 07, 2022, 10:09:24 AM »
Because the McCanns said so & SY said so & Wolters said so.

That's where we are at, about same place we were 15 years ago.

That's what 14 million quid buys us.

So you reject abduction as you think there's no evidence but accuse the mccanns... Even though there's no evidence

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15964 on: May 07, 2022, 10:16:18 AM »
So you reject abduction as you think there's no evidence but accuse the mccanns... Even though there's no evidence

I haven't seen any, do you know of any, care to share it?


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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15965 on: May 07, 2022, 10:22:16 AM »
I haven't seen any, do you know of any, care to share it?

I'd prefer to leave it there... We've established that you are prepared to believe something based on no evidence.. Wolters tells us his beliefs are based on evidence.. He's not an anonymous blogger but spokesman for the German invesigation

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15966 on: May 07, 2022, 10:24:24 AM »
I'd prefer to leave it there... We've established that you are prepared to believe something based on no evidence.. Wolters tells us his beliefs are based on evidence.. He's not an anonymous blogger but spokesman for the German invesigation

...and how is his investigation going?

Making real progress, clearly.

I can't even begin to imagine why he might have reached a dead end.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15967 on: May 07, 2022, 12:24:12 PM »
The Mail's latest theory....

Brueckner abducted Maddie, sold her to child traffickers, then bought her back from them & murdered her.

Madeleine McCann prosecutors probe whether missing girl was killed after being abducted and sold to child trafficking gang

Prosecutors are investigating the possibility Madeleine McCann was killed after being abducted and sold to a child trafficking gang.

Hans Christian-Wolters made the revelation in a Portuguese TV interview just days after revealing to MailOnline he had ‘new evidence’ against prime suspect Christian Brueckner.

Convicted rapist and paedophile Brueckner, 45, was identified as the man responsible for her abduction and ‘murder’ by German authorities in June 2020.

Since then they have been building a case against him but no charges have been brought – fuelling speculation the case against him is crumbling away and there will be no end to the 15 year mystery.

Portuguese TV reporter Sandra Felgueiras during her Sabado show on CMTV, asked Mr Wolters:’ So, you don’t believe that she was sold ?’

To which he replied: ‘I am not allowed to speak about these details,’ but when pressed and asked ‘if this was a possibility?’ he answered:’ Maybe it’s a possibility,’ without denying it.

The possibility that Madeleine was kidnapped to order for a child trafficking gang has been mooted before but there has never been any real elements to back the theory up.

Five years ago former Scotland Yard officer Colin Sutton suggested a ‘kidnap to order’ was the most likely and credible scenario for her disappearance.

However Mr Wolters insists they have ‘significant new evidence’ against him but ‘not forensic evidence’ and are adamant Brueckner is the man responsible.

Madeleine vanished from her parents Kate and Gerry’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast in May 2007 and despite numerous ‘sightings’ no trace of her has ever been found.

The show once again highlighted Brueckner’s relationship with fellow German Nicole Fehlinger and suggested they carried out the kidnap together.

But Mr Wolters denied this theory and said:’ We have checked this out. It is not part of our enquiry.’

He added:’ I can only say that at the moment we have only one suspicious person and that is Christian, there is no other person for us who is suspicious.’

When pressed as to when there would be a conclusion to the case Mr Wolters said: ‘The public and the McCanns have the right that we investigate seriously and that we only say something about the case when we are sure.'

‘He added: 'We are sure that he is the murderer of Madeleine McCann.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10792017/Madeleine-McCann-prosecutors-probe-killed-sold-traffickers.html
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15968 on: May 07, 2022, 12:32:16 PM »
I'd prefer to leave it there... We've established that you are prepared to believe something based on no evidence.. Wolters tells us his beliefs are based on evidence.. He's not an anonymous blogger but spokesman for the German invesigation
Quite.  And as there is no possible way that the troll can know what evidence the Germans have he writes from a position of almost complete ignorance. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15969 on: May 07, 2022, 12:39:30 PM »
Quite.  And as there is no possible way that the troll can know what evidence the Germans have he writes from a position of almost complete ignorance.

Well, I do know he has neither dna, nor forensics, nor any other evidence credible enough to successfully prosecute Brueckner with, or anyone else for that matter.



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Offline Angelo222

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15970 on: May 07, 2022, 12:47:00 PM »
Wolters said something along the lines of, if we saw the evidence he had we'd be left in no doubt.

But he clearly believes that if a court saw the evidence there would be room for reasonable doubt.

He thinks the public are all gullible plebs compared to court judges.

He might have a point there, considering so many people still believe that Maddie was abducted.

There are only two possibilities in my opinion and that is she either walked out of the apartment and was lifted or she was abducted from the bedroom. I see no other option.

Either way, she was abducted.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15971 on: May 07, 2022, 12:55:37 PM »
There are only two possibilities in my opinion and that is she either walked out of the apartment and was lifted or she was abducted from the bedroom. I see no other option.

Either way, she was abducted.

Well, she didn't wander out the back, because for that to be possible you would have to concede that the McCanns didn't tell the truth about the allegedly open window, & if that is the case then they could possibly have failed to tell the truth about something else, couldn't they?

The MWT conundrum, he was cut short by Phillip Schofield for legal reasons when discussing his theory on GMTV
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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15972 on: May 07, 2022, 01:03:11 PM »
Quite.  And as there is no possible way that the troll can know what evidence the Germans have he writes from a position of almost complete ignorance.

As does everyone here.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15973 on: May 07, 2022, 01:05:08 PM »
Well, she didn't wander out the back, because for that to be possible you would have to concede that the McCanns didn't tell the truth about the allegedly open window, & if that is the case then they could possibly have failed to tell the truth about something else, couldn't they?

The MWT conundrum, he was cut short by Phillip Schofield for legal reasons when discussing his theory on GMTV

Appearing on This Morning, Mark Williams-Thomas said: “It’s such a well trodden story by so many and such a difficult story to tell now because there are so many legal implications.

“On that morning of Madeleine’s disappearance, we do know she went to [her parents] Gerry and Kate and said: ‘Where were you last night?’

“Because we know the twins did wake up on days prior to her disappearance.

“And I think as a result of that, Madeleine was clearly aware they were in the tapas bar that was in the resort.

“Now the interesting element in that is in order to get to the tapas bar you had to actually come out of the premises, walk on a public road to go back in again.

“And that raises a concern I have in regards to Madeleine. I believe she woke up in the middle of the night, she went looking for Gerry and Kate and she left the apartment and went out.

“Because we know the patio door at the back was insecure.”

Co-host Philip Schofield then interjected to ask Williams-Thomas to stop theorising further for legal reasons.

The McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell told The Sun: “This is pure speculation and as such Kate and Gerry will not be dignifying it with any sort of comment whatsoever.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madeleine-mccann-theory-revealed-by-investigative-journalist-10-years-after-she-went-missing_uk_58ad5773e4b0d0a6ef464cbc


(probably should have posted it in the MWT thread but it's relevant to woke & wandered)
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Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #15974 on: May 07, 2022, 01:14:21 PM »

Tis really funny how often some people completely miss the elephant in the room.  Well, elephants actually.  But never mind.  It keeps me amused.