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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #660 on: September 03, 2020, 03:00:52 PM »
It was anunconfirmed rumour that the three wells searched were associated with CB. It was also rumoured that another twenty were to be searched, but it hasn't happened. Accepting newspaper stories as factual should be avoided imo.
Can I ask how you know this as a fact?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #661 on: September 03, 2020, 03:01:48 PM »
PJ made new searches for Maddie in three wells in the Algarve in recent weeks
Elements were collected that indicate the possible intervention of the German suspect in the disappearance of the English child.
Rui Pando Gomes
July 10, 2020
The Judiciary Police (PJ) searched for Madeleine McCann's body in three water wells located in rural areas in the municipality of Vila do Bispo.

The searches, which the CM found out, were carried out in recent weeks and are part of a list of measures developed by the Portuguese police, after the German Christian Brueckner became the main suspect in the disappearance of the English child, in Praia da Luz, in Lagos in 2007.

The CM knows that the searches in the wells were carried out with the support of a team of firemen specialized in search and rescue, which included divers.

According to CM , the PJ investigators found no trace of Maddie.

Other investigations have already been carried out, namely the questioning of witnesses, in conjunction with the German police BKA and the English Metropolitan Police, which share information to carry out investigative and expert acts, in Portugal and abroad.

The CM knows that elements have been collected that indicate the possible intervention of the German suspect in the disappearance of the English child.

https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/pj-fez-novas-buscas-por-maddie-em-tres-pocos-no-algarve-nas-ultimas-semanas-veja-esta-noite-no-programa-rua-segura-na-cmtv


Much as it goes against your grain I don't think the Judicial Police are allowing the British or the German police to rampage through Portugal without their say-so and involvement.

They are sharing information and cooperating and the press are working on the information they have which I suggest without Amaral's leaks to the press would be nothing.
That sounds like more than a rumour to me.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #662 on: September 03, 2020, 03:01:52 PM »
It was obvious to all that the PJ ceased to actively investigate Murat within a couple of months. The McCanns were  actively investigated until at least May 2008, and were still the prime suspects when the case was archived.

Because Amaral wasn't able to link Robert Murat to The McCanns, who would have needed local help to hide a body.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #663 on: September 03, 2020, 03:02:23 PM »
According to another unconfirmed rumour the wells were searched in connection with the death of a local man.
Please provide a cite for this unconfirmed rumour.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #664 on: September 03, 2020, 03:03:59 PM »
12 years ago...do you think the PJ  are still investigating them

Some people think the PJ are investigating an abduction, although they're unable to offer any evidence to support that.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #665 on: September 03, 2020, 03:07:38 PM »
Some people think the PJ are investigating an abduction, although they're unable to offer any evidence to support that.

I havent seen any evidence they are investigating anything....there is evidence from them that they dont see the McCanns as suspects which rules the mccanns out of the investigation and points to abduction or woke and wandered
« Last Edit: September 03, 2020, 03:10:12 PM by Davel »

Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #666 on: September 03, 2020, 03:09:46 PM »
Can I ask how you know this as a fact?

You claimed as a fact that the searches were connected to the McCann case.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11722.msg616617#msg616617

If you provide evidence that it is a fact, you can prove me wrong without asking questions.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #667 on: September 03, 2020, 03:12:17 PM »
Because Amaral wasn't able to link Robert Murat to The McCanns, who would have needed local help to hide a body.

That sounds to me like something you think rather than something the PJ were thinking.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #668 on: September 03, 2020, 03:20:35 PM »
Looking for a murder weapon?

https://www.portugalresident.com/dutchman-found-dead-in-suspected-murder-in-vila-do-bispo/
Did they find one?  Have there been any arrests?  Did they manage to find a Brit to pin it on?  Or is another botched PJ investigation to be filed forever as "unsolved"?
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Offline Brietta

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #669 on: September 03, 2020, 03:22:04 PM »
It was obvious to all that the PJ ceased to actively investigate Murat within a couple of months. The McCanns were  actively investigated until at least May 2008, and were still the prime suspects when the case was archived.

Nothing is obvious unless you can provide a cite supporting your supposition.

The fact remains that Murat was an arguido for much longer than the McCanns were and members who continue to abuse the McCanns on this abuse Murat with the same argument.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #670 on: September 03, 2020, 03:24:02 PM »
You claimed as a fact that the searches were connected to the McCann case.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11722.msg616617#msg616617

If you provide evidence that it is a fact, you can prove me wrong without asking questions.
Are you saying that it is a rumour only that they searched any wells?  Or that these wells were not in locations that had some association with CB, ie in areas he had lived or stayed near?  Were the pics in the media staged then?
Once you've answered those questions you can tell us all how you know for a fact that there have been no further well searches.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2020, 03:40:21 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #671 on: September 03, 2020, 04:49:12 PM »
That is truly a laugh a minute laughable have your cake and eating it post.  Robert Murat was an arguido just as Kate and Gerry were.
All three remained arguidos until the status was officially lifted.

I suggest you read the final report. They found no evidence against Murat and he answered their questions and cooperated. They had many unanswered questions in regards to the McCanns.

Information was collected from a Spanish detective agency, named "Método 3", which was hired by a British citizen, to benefit the McCANN couple. This contact was solicitated by this agency, and the information that was given was subject to analysis and dismissal by this Police, pages 3434-a and following. It revealed itself, all of it, as speculative and without fundament, focusing particular attention on ROBERT MURAT.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/P_J_FINAL_REPORT.htm

speculative - just like the Germans who have no credible evidence on CB. All they have is speculation! A phone call in an area where he lived may be involved in Madeleine's abduction. Absolute nonsense! Smithman is having a laff when fools continue to look in the wrong place  @)(++(*
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #672 on: September 03, 2020, 07:00:40 PM »
Some people think the PJ are investigating an abduction, although they're unable to offer any evidence to support that.
A few years back a few Portuguese nationals were made arguidos in this case.  Is that because the PJ were investigating parental involvement?
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Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline G-Unit

Re: “A Laughable Story”
« Reply #674 on: September 03, 2020, 07:25:47 PM »
A few years back a few Portuguese nationals were made arguidos in this case.  Is that because the PJ were investigating parental involvement?

No, it was because Operation Grange were investigating abduction by burglars.
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