Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[faithlilly]

That would make you the perfect parent then ... taking into consideration that you actually are a parent. My opinion.

No that would make him a responsible parent.

[Brietta]

It isn't. Going out for a meal with your mates is negligent.

In my opinion there is something hideously odd that the most important resonance concerning Madeleine's disappearance for some was not that she vanished never to be seen again but the allegation of negligence which takes up most of their outrage.

At the time there was a pervert on the loose in the Algarve whose MO was to enter holiday apartments while the parents slept in most of the cases undisturbed, with the purpose to sexually assault little girls.

Who is to blame for these assaults:  in my opinion quite obviously the pervert who perpetrated them. 
By the same token the blame for Madeleine McCann's disappearance lies fair and square with the person who absconded with her.

After over thirteen years of absence I think it is about time that blame was apportioned appropriately. 

Or not as the case may be ... the people who really matter are those who are doing their level best to find out what happened to Madeleine, who is responsible for it and if there is any chance she is still alive and those include her parents.

I really feel that Madeleine has been pushed into the background by those falling over themselves in their eagerness to get the boot into her parents.
Hatred as epitomised in the title of this thread ... "Is there more circumstantial  evidence against the mccanns than there is CB"
How horribly base and revolting is it to compare bereaved parents who made the mistake of their lives over thirteen years ago and have spent those every day of those years in atonement with a creature such as Brueckner.

[sadie]

It doesn't matter how much you try to excuse it, who else did it, how and where they did it....IT'S STILL WRONG!!

Infants and young children 0-3 years old should never be left alone...this applies also in your car while you run into the shops.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/

Butlins did it and it wasn't considered child neglect.

Very obviously The Authorities didn't think it child neglect either..

I guess we did it when caravanning, cos we used to sit out around a camp fire, but always in sight and close to our caravan.  Our children were a bit older tho.   It was really pitch black there, but thousands did it.   Not child neglect. 

We now realise, since Madeleines abduction that it was not good practice, but at the time, BEFORE Madeleine, it seemed fine to everyone, cos everyone joined in.



The Mccanns didn't have anything to warn them of the potential dangers, which we all know about since May 3rd., 2007

[The General]

Butlins did it and it wasn't considered child neglect.

Very obviously The Authorities didn't think it child neglect either..

I guess we did it when caravanning, cos we used to sit out around a camp fire, but always in sight and close to our caravan.  Our children were a bit older tho.   It was really pitch black there, but thousands did it.   Not child neglect. 

We now realise, since Madeleines abduction that it was not good practice, but at the time, BEFORE Madeleine, it seemed fine to everyone, cos everyone joined in.



The Mccanns didn't have anything to warn them of the potential dangers, which we all know about since May 3rd., 2007

Apart from their own consciences.

[kizzy]

In my opinion there is something hideously odd that the most important resonance concerning Madeleine's disappearance for some was not that she vanished never to be seen again but the allegation of negligence which takes up most of their outrage.

At the time there was a pervert on the loose in the Algarve whose MO was to enter holiday apartments while the parents slept in most of the cases undisturbed, with the purpose to sexually assault little girls.

Who is to blame for these assaults:  in my opinion quite obviously the pervert who perpetrated them. 
By the same token the blame for Madeleine McCann's disappearance lies fair and square with the person who absconded with her.

After over thirteen years of absence I think it is about time that blame was apportioned appropriately. 

Or not as the case may be ... the people who really matter are those who are doing their level best to find out what happened to Madeleine, who is responsible for it and if there is any chance she is still alive and those include her parents.

I really feel that Madeleine has been pushed into the background by those falling over themselves in their eagerness to get the boot into her parents.
Hatred as epitomised in the title of this thread ... "Is there more circumstantial  evidence against the mccanns than there is CB"
How horribly base and revolting is it to compare bereaved parents who made the mistake of their lives over thirteen years ago and have spent those every day of those years in atonement with a creature such as Brueckner.

I believe the mccs are involved in what happened to Maddie.....what more can you say.

You say they ade a mistake......so you would think after that they would be overprotective of the twins.

So much so they put them in the creche next doay...not knowing if it was aninside job.

IMO they thought it was safe to do that becacse they knew it was safe to do that.

No abductor.......still today dozens of suspects that all come to nothing.

If your child had truly been ‘abducted by a stranger’ theywould be especially protective towards their other children and want to be close by their side as much as possible. 

[Mr Gray]

I believe the mccs are involved in what happened to Maddie.....what more can you say.

You say they ade a mistake......so you would think after that they would be overprotective of the twins.

So much so they put them in the creche next doay...not knowing if it was aninside job.

IMO they thought it was safe to do that becacse they knew it was safe to do that.

No abductor.......still today dozens of suspects that all come to nothing.

If your child had truly been ‘abducted by a stranger’ theywould be especially protective towards their other children and want to be close by their side as much as possible.

I'm sure the mcCanns are not involved based on the evidence and am faorly sure Breukner is involved..based on the evidence

[kizzy]

I'm sure the mcCanns are not involved based on the evidence and am faorly sure Breukner is involved..based on the evidence

what evidence is that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

*Groundhog Day Klaxon*

[kizzy]

I'm sure the mcCanns are not involved based on the evidence and am faorly sure Breukner is involved..based on the evidence

Surely you can see they are looking for something that isn't there.



Portuguese police fear Christian B will never go down for his suspected crimes.

It comes as Germany‘s investigation into the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, 43, has dried up.

Christian B is currently in jail for drug offences, and is appealing a seven-year sentence for raping a 73-year-old woman as Portuguese police desperately try to ensure he has no chance of being released anytime soon.

Speaking to The Sun Online, a source said: “Although officers are continuing work around the clock, leads have dried up in recent weeks.

“They know (he) will never talk. So it will be up to them to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw to lead them to finally find out what happened to Maddie.”

Back in August, Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said “you could order holy water as a long drink in hell” before his client co-operated with the investigation.

Now German police are desperate for new information as their case has hit a dead end.

DEAD END


On Thursday a source close to the case said: “The German detectives are desperate for fresh leads to help breath new life into the investigation.

“In the first few days after Christian B‘s name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week.

“But in recent weeks they have dried up and there is concern that they really need to increase the amount of intelligence they have coming in

[carlymichelle]

the way i see it the mcanns are adults and dont need  to be  coddled  like some coddle them on  here  the people who defend the mcanns  forget about maddie  imo

[Vertigo Swirl]

the way i see it the mcanns are adults and dont need  to be  coddled  like some coddle them on  here  the people who defend the mcanns  forget about maddie  imo

Give it a rest, seriously IMO your observation is quite puerile.

[Brietta]

Surely you can see they are looking for something that isn't there.



Portuguese police fear Christian B will never go down for his suspected crimes.

It comes as Germany‘s investigation into the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case, 43, has dried up.

Christian B is currently in jail for drug offences, and is appealing a seven-year sentence for raping a 73-year-old woman as Portuguese police desperately try to ensure he has no chance of being released anytime soon.

Speaking to The Sun Online, a source said: “Although officers are continuing work around the clock, leads have dried up in recent weeks.

“They know (he) will never talk. So it will be up to them to find the missing pieces of the jigsaw to lead them to finally find out what happened to Maddie.”

Back in August, Christian B's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said “you could order holy water as a long drink in hell” before his client co-operated with the investigation.

Now German police are desperate for new information as their case has hit a dead end.

DEAD END


On Thursday a source close to the case said: “The German detectives are desperate for fresh leads to help breath new life into the investigation.

“In the first few days after Christian B‘s name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week.

“But in recent weeks they have dried up and there is concern that they really need to increase the amount of intelligence they have coming in

I think there is a tremendous amount of naivety and wishful thinking embodied in your post.

“In the first few days after Christian B‘s name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week."

Now multiply that by three or even by 2.05 and I think that amounts to a considerable amount of information which requires assessment and following up ... who knows, even coordination.

The appropriate response is not as demonstrated by Paiva who stuck it all in files marked  as being of no relevence to the inquiry ... it is to investigate and evaluate.  That takes time and effort.

For example the tabloids have produced a new friend of Brueckners for us who the Germans wish to interview as a witness.
Information or intelligence about that man without a name came from somewhere don't you think and has to be checked, discarded or advanced depending on relevance.

Were I you I would not place too much hope or reliance on journalists anxious for a pay cheque.  I would wait until the guys who know what they are doing let us in on that. 

It was the Portuguese who gave up on Madeleine back in 2007 ~ I don't think the present investigators are anxious to repeat that error. 
Patience they say is a virtue and the Germans et al are in this for the long game. 

[Brietta]

the way i see it the mcanns are adults and dont need  to be  coddled  like some coddle them on  here  the people who defend the mcanns  forget about maddie  imo

Three police forces are looking for Madeleine and neither they nor Madeleine's parents are about to downplay the significance of that.

[The General]

Three police forces are looking for Madeleine and neither they nor Madeleine's parents are about to downplay the significance of that.

...or even comment on it at all in fact.
Not even a 'way to go, guys', or a clenched fist salute in solidarity.
Just a 'dignified' silence. Oh well, at least 3 parties are looking, according to you.

[kizzy]

I think there is a tremendous amount of naivety and wishful thinking embodied in your post.

“In the first few days after Christian B‘s name was released they were receiving hundreds of new leads a week."

Now multiply that by three or even by 2.05 and I think that amounts to a considerable amount of information which requires assessment and following up ... who knows, even coordination.

The appropriate response is not as demonstrated by Paiva who stuck it all in files marked  as being of no relevence to the inquiry ... it is to investigate and evaluate.  That takes time and effort.

For example the tabloids have produced a new friend of Brueckners for us who the Germans wish to interview as a witness.
Information or intelligence about that man without a name came from somewhere don't you think and has to be checked, discarded or advanced depending on relevance.

Were I you I would not place too much hope or reliance on journalists anxious for a pay cheque.  I would wait until the guys who know what they are doing let us in on that. 

It was the Portuguese who gave up on Madeleine back in 2007 ~ I don't think the present investigators are anxious to repeat that error. 
Patience they say is a virtue and the Germans et al are in this for the long game.

Not if it isn't CB in the first place.

I think this applies more to you.


I think there is a tremendous amount of naivety and wishful thinking embodied in your post.