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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2145 on: October 28, 2020, 09:39:37 AM »
All we  are seeeing here is sour grapes from the PJ because they are totally embarrassed at being made to look stupid by the Germans.

Not as embarrassed as some ...when they don't.

We will see...

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2146 on: October 28, 2020, 09:46:11 AM »

When did the investigation into the McCann begin?

When were they interviewed/questioned?

Where were the interviews held?

Did the McCanns travel to Germany or did the Germans interview them here?

Why the need for such secrecy?

I think Brueckner was brought to German police attention as a direct result of a tenth anniversary television appeal made by her parents on Madeleine's behalf.

There has been a very big window between then and now for the Germans to have investigated suspects and interviewed witnesses and it appears they did just that.

Nobody gave a thought to Brueckner or even wondered why the Germans tried him for a rape carried out in Praia da Luz until Amaral's Australian podcast 'revelation' which rather put the kibosh on anyone continuing with discrete inquiries into Madeleine's case.

But up until then the Germans were playing their hand very close to their chest.  Maybe you could drop them a FOI request?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2147 on: October 28, 2020, 09:56:30 AM »
I think Brueckner was brought to German police attention as a direct result of a tenth anniversary television appeal made by her parents on Madeleine's behalf.

There has been a very big window between then and now for the Germans to have investigated suspects and interviewed witnesses and it appears they did just that.

Nobody gave a thought to Brueckner or even wondered why the Germans tried him for a rape carried out in Praia da Luz until Amaral's Australian podcast 'revelation' which rather put the kibosh on anyone continuing with discrete inquiries into Madeleine's case.

But up until then the Germans were playing their hand very close to their chest.  Maybe you could drop them a FOI request?


Wasnt it the germans who named him ...not GA.

Offline jassi

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2148 on: October 28, 2020, 09:59:20 AM »

Wasnt it the germans who named him ...not GA.

Named by the Media, rather than German officials
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2149 on: October 28, 2020, 10:18:10 AM »

Wasnt it the germans who named him ...not GA.

Mark Saunokonoko
@saunokonoko
14 months ago, in April 2019, Goncalo Amaral told me British police were "preparing the end of the investigation, with a German paedophile who is in prison right now" and the prisoner "is probably going to be the scapegoat for the case." https://9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-german-paedophile-took-maddie-uk-police-amaral-claim-podcast/cc225ca6-7123-4182-985c-89888224bd09
 #McCann

Stephen H
@StephenH88
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Jun 3
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@saunokonoko
Yes that was my first thought when the news broke. Excellent podcast series Mark.

Replying to
@saunokonoko
First thing I thought when I heard this tonight after listening to pod last year, strange

Suzanna Matos
@ubeeelha
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
Of course they need a scapegoat! Care to explain all the conflicting statements, lack of holiday photos of Maddie, cadaver dogs, etc... oh yes, the German did it all!

Rob Barber
@robbarber1
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Jun 3
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@saunokonoko
As soon as I read this news today, I remembered you discussing this on the podcast Mark!

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@JustNessie4971
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Jun 3
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@saunokonoko
I remember that on your podcast, Amaral saying that and he was bang on the money weren't he ?
We know exactly where the cops should be looking but obviously they'd rather pin it on this guy.

Sharon Lawrence
@5haronl
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Jun 3
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@saunokonoko
Well they are trying very hard to get a scapegoat for the McCann case. It won’t work, everyone knows there was no sign of an intransigent the dogs alerted to human blood and cadaver.  What they don’t realise is that Madeleine died 4 days earlier than reported.

Juliemcr
@JulieHarrigan4
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Jun 3
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@saunokonoko
Dogs don’t lie !
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2150 on: October 28, 2020, 10:23:34 AM »
Mark Saunokonoko
@saunokonoko
14 months ago, in April 2019, Goncalo Amaral told me British police were "preparing the end of the investigation, with a German paedophile who is in prison right now" and the prisoner "is probably going to be the scapegoat for the case." https://9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-german-paedophile-took-maddie-uk-police-amaral-claim-podcast/cc225ca6-7123-4182-985c-89888224bd09
 #McCann

Stephen H
@StephenH88
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
Yes that was my first thought when the news broke. Excellent podcast series Mark.

Replying to
@saunokonoko
First thing I thought when I heard this tonight after listening to pod last year, strange

Suzanna Matos
@ubeeelha
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
Of course they need a scapegoat! Care to explain all the conflicting statements, lack of holiday photos of Maddie, cadaver dogs, etc... oh yes, the German did it all!

Rob Barber
@robbarber1
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
As soon as I read this news today, I remembered you discussing this on the podcast Mark!

NessWine glassWine glassRed heartWinking face with tongueHibiscusRosePeacockTropical drink
@JustNessie4971
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
I remember that on your podcast, Amaral saying that and he was bang on the money weren't he ?
We know exactly where the cops should be looking but obviously they'd rather pin it on this guy.

Sharon Lawrence
@5haronl
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
Well they are trying very hard to get a scapegoat for the McCann case. It won’t work, everyone knows there was no sign of an intransigent the dogs alerted to human blood and cadaver.  What they don’t realise is that Madeleine died 4 days earlier than reported.

Juliemcr
@JulieHarrigan4
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Jun 3
Replying to
@saunokonoko
Dogs don’t lie !

ofgs Where does he mention CB or his name.

He said a german scapegoat, yes but he didn't name who it was.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2151 on: October 28, 2020, 10:38:38 AM »
It is possible to take them at their word and to also make allowances for imperfect recall, or inaccurate statement recording and/or translation.  I know this hugely unreasonable behaviour but there we are.  Do you think “highlighting a tiny piece of evidence and blowing it up out of all proportion” is a good game to play?

The devil is in the detail. It's there that changes, inconsistences and glossed over facts are found. Explaining them by blaming imperfect recall, trauma or inadequate statement taking is speculation, not fact.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2152 on: October 28, 2020, 10:51:07 AM »
The devil is in the detail. It's there that changes, inconsistences and glossed over facts are found. Explaining them by blaming imperfect recall, trauma or inadequate statement taking is speculation, not fact.

Assuming the statements are accurate is speculation not fact. None of us know why the inconsistencies are there...to assume a reason is speculation....To assume they were recorded and read back accurately is speculation...you are as guilty of speculation as anyone

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2153 on: October 28, 2020, 10:59:55 AM »
Do you understand why there are uhms and ahs in the rogs but not in the PJ statements....
Do the Portuguese use different words?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2154 on: October 28, 2020, 11:29:02 AM »
Do the Portuguese use different words?

A lot of foreign words are not directly translatable.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2155 on: October 28, 2020, 11:40:37 AM »
A lot of foreign words are not directly translatable.
What do the French say rather than " uhms and ahs"?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2156 on: October 28, 2020, 11:45:25 AM »
Do the Portuguese use different words?

I would think that those critical of the ums and ahs have never seen a transcript of an audio recorder police statement

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2157 on: October 28, 2020, 11:46:11 AM »
What do the French say rather than " uhms and ahs"?

Ers.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2158 on: October 28, 2020, 11:48:12 AM »

When did the investigation into the McCann begin?

When were they interviewed/questioned?

Where were the interviews held?

Did the McCanns travel to Germany or did the Germans interview them here?

Why the need for such secrecy?
just to piss you off I expect.  When did your investigation into the McCanns begin?  When did you interview them?  Where did you hold the interviews?  Did you travel to Rothley?  Obviously you wouldn't have been able to draw any conclusions about their involvement without conducting a throrugh investigation, so do tell. 
« Last Edit: October 28, 2020, 01:31:38 PM by G-Unit »
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2159 on: October 28, 2020, 11:49:07 AM »
Assuming the statements are accurate is speculation not fact. None of us know why the inconsistencies are there...to assume a reason is speculation....To assume they were recorded and read back accurately is speculation...you are as guilty of speculation as anyone
exactly.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".