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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2610 on: November 07, 2020, 08:59:11 PM »


As a UK police officer he advised the FBI and Stockham in setting up their programme. He was certainly in the US as Eddie's training was enhanced by expanding his training to include actual cadavers before attending PdL.

In 2010 he was contracted to work for them to provide Subject Matter Expert consultancy to the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Evidence Response Team in respect of the Forensic Canine Program, Victim Recovery Team.

"In 2010 or 2011, Grime started to work with the FBI to help develop its program. The program started seeing improved results after Grime’s involvement. "
http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/opncavwp/0140174.pdf

Where's your cite for your claim he advised the FBI in setting up the programme...which started in ,2005...

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2611 on: November 07, 2020, 09:13:36 PM »
Your opinion isn't evidence, Rob.
I don't think this is just my opinion but observation by many people: "There are multiple things that have been done and said that makes many of us question what is going on."

Let's list them:
One of the most disturbing for me was Gerry seen laughing in that video.
Also troubling for me was Kate not answering the 48 questions.

There are so many things truthfully worrying to the majority.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2612 on: November 07, 2020, 09:26:48 PM »
I don't think this is just my opinion but observation by many people: "There are multiple things that have been done and said that makes many of us question what is going on."

Let's list them:
One of the most disturbing for me was Gerry seen laughing in that video.
Also troubling for me was Kate not answering the 48 questions.

There are so many things truthfully worrying to the majority.

Which "majority" are you referencing?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2613 on: November 07, 2020, 09:31:20 PM »
Which "majority" are you referencing?
New members to my Facebook group.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2614 on: November 07, 2020, 09:37:25 PM »
I don't think this is just my opinion but observation by many people: "There are multiple things that have been done and said that makes many of us question what is going on."

Let's list them:
One of the most disturbing for me was Gerry seen laughing in that video.
Also troubling for me was Kate not answering the 48 questions.

There are so many things truthfully worrying to the majority.

I see no.problem with the laughter...nor with the 48 questions

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2615 on: November 07, 2020, 09:38:53 PM »
I see no.problem with the laughter...nor with the 48 questions
Don't you feel you are in the minority.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2616 on: November 07, 2020, 09:43:37 PM »
Don't you feel you are in the minority.

Absolutely not with the prime suspect being CB.
I've posted a photograph of a young lady arriving at her murdered parents and siblings funeral...she only survived by playing dead...and guess what...she's got a big smile on her face

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2617 on: November 07, 2020, 09:45:24 PM »
Absolutely not with the prime suspect being CB.
I've posted a photograph of a young lady arriving at her murdered parents and siblings funeral...she only survived by playing dead...and guess what...she's got a big smile on her face
Where was that photo posted Davel?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2618 on: November 07, 2020, 09:46:00 PM »
Where was that photo posted Davel?
I've posted it here several times

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2619 on: November 07, 2020, 09:47:26 PM »
Absolutely not with the prime suspect being CB.
I've posted a photograph of a young lady arriving at her murdered parents and siblings funeral...she only survived by playing dead...and guess what...she's got a big smile on her face

I guess she did have something to smile about.  I don't recall that one, sorry.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2620 on: November 07, 2020, 09:48:40 PM »
I guess she did have something to smile about.
What a vile and cruel thing to say...I'm afraid that speaks volumes about you Rob

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2621 on: November 07, 2020, 09:52:18 PM »
What a vile and cruel thing to say...I'm afraid that speaks volumes about you Rob
The fact that she survived!  What's vile and cruel about that?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2622 on: November 07, 2020, 09:55:18 PM »
New members to my Facebook group.

Of absolutely no relevance then.
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Offline sadie

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2623 on: November 07, 2020, 09:58:05 PM »
Your criticisms are only valid if you know enough about the training and handling of this type of dog for your opinion to carry weight. Afaik you don't have any expertise in the subject so your opinion is valueless imo.

The dog's trainer and handler, who has considerable expertise and experience, reported that the dog Eddie showed interest immediately on entering 5A;

"I first noticed is that as soon as I came in that the dog was very excited and as a handler I can pick up his body language etc and it would appear to me that as soon as he has come into the house he's picked up a scent that he recognises"
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

For me, that explains why the 5A search which followed was thorough. Had the same behaviour been seen on entering another of the apartments I expect the time spent there would have been longer too.

We know that Eddie alerts to blood as well as Cadaver, don't we ?   Keela alerted to blood in there and Madeleine had grazed her knee on the plane steps, also we understand that one of the children had a nose bleed. 

Eddie is/was an exciteable dog, and it was his first apartment, it seems.   He wanted his reward; was it a tennis ball?    So he could have alerted to this blood, or to any remnant scent from the ashes/watch/ hospital pyjamas of Tasmin Silences Grandpa, who died whilst resident in that flat.


BTW, since when have you become an expert about the training and handling of this type of dog.  Do you have any worthwhile experience in the matter?   If you don't then your opinion is valueless imo. especially as you are so biased as to only allow for the one scenario.




Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #2624 on: November 07, 2020, 10:00:42 PM »
The fact that she survived!  What's vile and cruel about that?
She survived when her family were slaughtered...and you made a  joke about it... disgusting