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Offline Erngath

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2020, 10:34:02 AM »
What else can it be but a thin thread, imo he was hoping for more -  started the ball rolling and it has obviously stopped.

It seems to me everything walters says has to be taken as proof he has something ...it isn't.

GA is slated by some for doing the exact same as what CWH is doing.

GA speaks from documented police files....What is Wolters speaking from imo uncorroborated evidence.

Sorry.
You haven't answered the questions I asked.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2020, 10:58:51 AM »
Sorry.
You haven't answered the questions I asked.


Do you believe that Wolters is a Maverick who is giving statements and interviews without permission from his superiors?

Well it seems to me thats what they do, worry about the consequences later.

It's not exactly statemented...its only words where now it seems he -  has shut up.

Offline Erngath

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2020, 11:16:31 AM »

Do you believe that Wolters is a Maverick who is giving statements and interviews without permission from his superiors?

Well it seems to me thats what they do, worry about the consequences later.

It's not exactly statemented...its only words where now it seems he -  has shut up.

So you do believe he is a Maverick who is giving interviews and making statements which are extremely damning about CB and Madeleine's fate without his statements, interviews being approved by a higher authority.

"Well it seems to me that's what they do, worry about the consequences"........
I don't understand what you mean.
Who is "they" and you believe they worry or don't worry about the consequences.
 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2020, 11:44:33 AM »
And yet, they are claiming they didn’t get any payment. In Brückner’s world, who do you expect to be part of his circle? Just because they may have a clandestine agenda, does not mean they don’t have valuable and important information about their friend.

In my opinion a constant theme has been that the McCanns should be believed because there's nothing in their past which suggests they might be guilty of wrongdoing.

At the same time Amaral's conviction for perjury has been used to suggest he is a liar and therefore should not be believed.

Now we have a pair of criminals accusing another criminal of wrongdoing, but being believed by some. I think that's inconsistent and illogical.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2020, 12:12:29 PM »
Do you believe that Wolters is a Maverick who is giving statements and interviews without permission from his superiors?
Do you believe that he is making such damming pronouncements about CB and Madeleine's fate with only the evidence you describe as "a very thin thread"?

Whatever Wolters was doing he seems to have stopped. What he has done in my opinion is to publicly accuse someone of murder, despite admitting he hasn't enough evidence to lay charges against them.

I can just imagine the fuss if José de Magalhaes e Menezes had publicly accused the McCanns of staging an abduction while admitting he didn't have enough evidence to charge them.
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Offline Erngath

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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2020, 12:26:03 PM »
Whatever Wolters was doing he seems to have stopped. What he has done in my opinion is to publicly accuse someone of murder, despite admitting he hasn't enough evidence to lay charges against them.

I can just imagine the fuss if José de Magalhaes e Menezes had publicly accused the McCanns of staging an abduction while admitting he didn't have enough evidence to charge them.

Sorry.
You have not answered the questions which I put to John.

And JDMeM didn't make that public acusations.
Did he?
So why you mention something which never occurred is rather puzzling.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2020, 12:48:06 PM by Erngath »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2020, 12:46:53 PM »
Sorry.
You have not answered the questions which I put to John.

Who are Wolter's superiors?
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Offline Erngath

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2020, 12:48:50 PM »
Who are Wolter's superiors?

I cannot name them.
I assume he does.
Does he?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2020, 01:17:07 PM »
I cannot name them.
I assume he does.
Does he?

Unless you can explain who Wolter's superiors are, how can you hypothesise about whether he has acted with or without their approval? The fact is that he has made public announcements that he is investigating a murder and that he believes his suspect committed that murder. Even if he had irrefutable evidence (which he doesn't) such a public statement by a member of the Judiciary is not allowed imo.

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Offline Erngath

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2020, 01:26:24 PM »
Unless you can explain who Wolter's superiors are, how can you hypothesise about whether he has acted with or without their approval? The fact is that he has made public announcements that he is investigating a murder and that he believes his suspect committed that murder. Even if he had irrefutable evidence (which he doesn't) such a public statement by a member of the Judiciary is not allowed imo.

So why was he allowed to make such a public announcement?
You obviously believe he is a Maverick who calls a press conference and makes damning and extremely grave accusations against CB and dire statements about Madeleine's fate.
You have answered my question.
Thank you.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2020, 01:44:26 PM »
So why was he allowed to make such a public announcement?
You obviously believe he is a Maverick who calls a press conference and makes damning and extremely grave accusations against CB and dire statements about Madeleine's fate.
You have answered my question.
Thank you.

Who was going to stop him making public announcements? You seem to be assuming he was given permission, but you don't know if he needed permission or not.

If he didn't need permission he decided what he was going to say and it was to issue an accusation which at the same time he admitted he couldn't prove. In my opinion that probably isn't allowed. It may be why he has suddenly stopped speaking.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2020, 01:49:15 PM »
So why was he allowed to make such a public announcement?
You obviously believe he is a Maverick who calls a press conference and makes damning and extremely grave accusations against CB and dire statements about Madeleine's fate.
You have answered my question.
Thank you.

Well, for a start what's with all this Maverick got to do with it, unless you mean HCW played all his cards.

HCW, it seems to me has started something he can't finish seems it could now be damage limitation to his career why he has gone silent.

There are, it seems more questions than answers for why he did what he did imo

Offline Erngath

Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2020, 01:56:25 PM »
Who was going to stop him making public announcements? You seem to be assuming he was given permission, but you don't know if he needed permission or not.

If he didn't need permission he decided what he was going to say and it was to issue an accusation which at the same time he admitted he couldn't prove. In my opinion that probably isn't allowed. It may be why he has suddenly stopped speaking.

So you believe he is a Maverick who calls press conferences , makes grave accusations against CB and dreadful statements about Madeleine`s fate, all based on a very thin thread.
As I said thank you for your answer.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2020, 02:07:27 PM by Erngath »
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Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2020, 02:26:12 PM »
So you believe he is a Maverick who calls press conferences , makes grave accusations against CB and dreadful statements about Madeleine`s fate, all based on a very thin thread.
As I said thank you for your answer.

Just to be clear I don't believe Wolters is a Maverick; that's your description. I have no idea why he decided to do as he did but I do think he went too far.
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Re: Are The Tabloids Running Scared?
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2020, 02:35:47 PM »
Just to be clear I don't believe Wolters is a Maverick; that's your description. I have no idea why he decided to do as he did but I do think he went too far.

Perhaps he just knows more than you do about the evidence he has
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