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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #120 on: January 05, 2021, 11:34:45 AM »
Well yes, the gender of the coroner is particularly important, as was amply demonstrated in the case of.....um....errr....

Do we know if she was a lesbian?

That could change our whole perspective on the events.
You're right.  As homosexuality is outlawed in Malaysia she could have been blackmailed into reaching that verdict by shadowy elites who wish to protect Malaysia's reputation as a safe holiday destination.  didn't think of that did you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #121 on: January 05, 2021, 11:35:16 AM »
Not very good with English either.
You're not goading are you by any chance?
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #122 on: January 05, 2021, 11:39:38 AM »
You're right.  As homosexuality is outlawed in Malaysia she could have been blackmailed into reaching that verdict by shadowy elites who wish to protect Malaysia's reputation as a safe holiday destination.  didn't think of that did you?
Your grasp of Muslim culture is also flawed if you think that anyone would feel the need to blackmail a woman.
The fact that this female coroner has ascended to such a prestigious position is testament to her tenacity and competence.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #123 on: January 05, 2021, 11:42:50 AM »
You're not goading are you by any chance?

Certainly not.  Just stating facts.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #124 on: January 05, 2021, 12:21:22 PM »
Your grasp of Muslim culture is also flawed if you think that anyone would feel the need to blackmail a woman.
The fact that this female coroner has ascended to such a prestigious position is testament to her tenacity and competence.
I love it when you go all po-faced and sanctimonious.   I lived in Malaysia for years, but thanks for the further education, always much appreciated - and of course I know that corruption just isn't a feature of Malaysian life at all at all at all.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #125 on: January 05, 2021, 12:25:16 PM »
I think the Malaysian authorities have behaved entirely correctly in this case. Both the police and the courts have relied on the evidence available to them. The family had to acknowledge that there was no physical evidence to aid the coroner. They said;

“The verdict focused exclusively on physical evidence and physical mobility – which we believe, presents a very incomplete/select theory on how Nora came about her death.”

LBT Global said;

“It is clear that Nora could not have physically carried out the movements suggested.

“It is crucial that to deliver a comprehensive verdict the coroner would have to have fully taken into account Nora’s condition – that they did so is not immediately apparent."

It may be clear to the family that Nora's condition prevented her from doing what it seems she did; leaving the accomodation and wandering off, but it seems they failed to convince the authorities. I wonder if they had medical testimony to support their belief? Did Nora's doctors testify about her physical capabilities?


https://www.thenational.scot/news/uk-news/18984097.nora-quoirin-inquest---family-disappointed-verdict/
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Offline jassi

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2021, 12:28:01 PM »
I read somewhere yesterday ( don't ask for a cite as I don't have one to hand) that 49 witnesses were heard before a decision was taken.

Just in case someone wants to be a pain in the buttocks,

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/nora-quoirin-inquest-verdict-expected-within-a-month-39849921.html

6th paragraph down.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2021, 12:49:38 PM by Angelo222 »
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2021, 12:35:05 PM »
I read somewhere yesterday ( don't ask for a cite as I don't have one to hand) that 49 witnesses were heard before a decision was taken.
I think the main issue here is that the parents still maintain she was abducted.
It would appear that the evidence, or lack thereof, does not support this opinion.
It's a similar situation with the Nora Quoirin case.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #128 on: January 05, 2021, 12:36:42 PM »
I think the main issue here is that the parents still maintain she was abducted.
It would appear that the evidence, or lack thereof, does not support this opinion.
It's a similar situation with the Nora Quoirin case.
This is the Nora Quorin case, what are you talking about?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #129 on: January 05, 2021, 12:38:18 PM »
I think the Malaysian authorities have behaved entirely correctly in this case. Both the police and the courts have relied on the evidence available to them. The family had to acknowledge that there was no physical evidence to aid the coroner. They said;

“The verdict focused exclusively on physical evidence and physical mobility – which we believe, presents a very incomplete/select theory on how Nora came about her death.”

LBT Global said;

“It is clear that Nora could not have physically carried out the movements suggested.

“It is crucial that to deliver a comprehensive verdict the coroner would have to have fully taken into account Nora’s condition – that they did so is not immediately apparent."

It may be clear to the family that Nora's condition prevented her from doing what it seems she did; leaving the accomodation and wandering off, but it seems they failed to convince the authorities. I wonder if they had medical testimony to support their belief? Did Nora's doctors testify about her physical capabilities?


https://www.thenational.scot/news/uk-news/18984097.nora-quoirin-inquest---family-disappointed-verdict/
I don't know but the headmaster of her school definitely did, and he said she would not have been capable of wandering off.  But what does he know, eh?  I'm sure those who never knew the girl at all are in a much better position to judge exactly what she was capable of.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2021, 12:40:15 PM »
Unless there is a transcript of the inquest available, I suggest that no one on here knows what witnesses actually said.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2021, 12:43:14 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2021, 12:41:34 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk2n4bWdFqw

The facts:

THE day before Nóra Quoirin went missing from her family's holiday villa in Malaysia she was approached by a stranger at Kuala Lumpur international airport, an inquest heard.

The 15-year-old's naked body was discovered after a 10-day police search.

An inquest heard her dad Sebastien had left Nóra and her two younger siblings unaccompanied for less than five minutes while he met their mum, Meabh, who had flown in separately from Singapore after a business trip.

He arrived with the children on August 3 after flying from London and a police officer told the inquest Mr Quoirin moved just 30 steps away to meet her at the arrival gate, leaving Nóra and her siblings, aged 12 and eight, alone "for less than five minutes".

The three siblings standing alone were approached by an unknown male, but the children ignored his approaches having been warned "not to speak to strangers".

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/08/28/news/stranger-apporached-nora-quoirin-day-before-disappearance-from-family-s-malaysian-holiday-villa-2049620/
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #132 on: January 05, 2021, 12:46:29 PM »
This is the Nora Quorin case, what are you talking about?
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Offline The General

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #133 on: January 05, 2021, 12:49:08 PM »
The facts:

THE day before Nóra Quoirin went missing from her family's holiday villa in Malaysia she was approached by a stranger at Kuala Lumpur international airport, an inquest heard.

The 15-year-old's naked body was discovered after a 10-day police search.

An inquest heard her dad Sebastien had left Nóra and her two younger siblings unaccompanied for less than five minutes while he met their mum, Meabh, who had flown in separately from Singapore after a business trip.

He arrived with the children on August 3 after flying from London and a police officer told the inquest Mr Quoirin moved just 30 steps away to meet her at the arrival gate, leaving Nóra and her siblings, aged 12 and eight, alone "for less than five minutes".

The three siblings standing alone were approached by an unknown male, but the children ignored his approaches having been warned "not to speak to strangers".

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/08/28/news/stranger-apporached-nora-quoirin-day-before-disappearance-from-family-s-malaysian-holiday-villa-2049620/
It we be more surprising if they weren't approached by a stranger at KL.
It used to be a two wallet destination.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Death-of-teenager-nora-quoirin-coroner-rules-out-involvement-of-others
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2021, 12:53:26 PM »
I read somewhere yesterday ( don't ask for a cite as I don't have one to hand) that 49 witnesses were heard before a decision was taken.

Just in case someone wants to be a pain in the buttocks,

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/nora-quoirin-inquest-verdict-expected-within-a-month-39849921.html

6th paragraph down.

Thank you jassi. The way some people here are posting one would think the coroner made up her findings just for fun...how pathetic.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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