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Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1500 on: February 10, 2023, 10:03:39 PM »
Sandra Lean
There are a number of ways the killer could have escaped without coming out onto either  of the paths, but this was never even a police consideration - in order to shoe-horn everything into their chosen theory the initial claims that the killer would be heavily bloodstained, and appeals for anyone who'd witnessed someone disposing of their usual clothing, changing appearance, etc were dropped by trial


In reality - it’s Sandra Lean who has shoe-horned everything into her ‘chosen theory’/innocence fraud narrative
« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 12:05:41 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1501 on: February 10, 2023, 10:18:55 PM »
Sandra Lean
There are a number of ways the killer could have escaped without coming out onto either  of the paths, but this was never even a police consideration - in order to shoe-horn everything into their chosen theory, the initial claims that the killer would be heavily bloodstained, and appeals for anyone who'd witnessed someone disposing of their usual clothing, changing appearance, etc were dropped by trial


Clearly the police considered every which way
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline John

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1502 on: February 10, 2023, 10:33:19 PM »
Clearly the police considered every which way

I don't think to this day that the wood has been searched properly which lies between Roan's Dyke footpath and Mitchell's former home.

The only route home he could have taken to avoid being seen on the public road except for when he had to cross it and was seen by two ladies in a car.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1503 on: February 10, 2023, 10:54:15 PM »
I don't think to this day that the wood has been searched properly which lies between Roan's Dyke footpath and Mitchell's former home.

The only route home he could have taken to avoid being seen on the public road except for when he had to cross it and was seen by two ladies in a car.

The witnesses, one of whom was exposed as a liar on the stand? Those ‘ladies’?

What has always puzzled me is why not one other witness has come forward who saw Luke where Fleming and Walsh did. It was a busy road on a busy weekday yet only two witnesses, in the same car, saw him. Is that really credible? Contrast this with the 6 people who saw Luke at the very location he claimed he was standing at.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 11:16:06 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1504 on: February 11, 2023, 12:22:02 AM »
What was the name of the German shepherd dog before Mia ?

”In an attempt to gain further sympathy from followers, a photo of Mitchell as a child was posted on an online support group with promises more would be released. It shows him eating a carrot with a pony.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/jodi-jones-family-blast-killer-24425567

And why didn’t Lisa C Reynolds Peden/Corinne Mitchell publish photographs of the German shepherd dog they had before Mia - when they were posting photos of the horses they rode etc
« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 12:28:12 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1505 on: February 11, 2023, 12:29:35 AM »
I don't think to this day that the wood has been searched properly which lies between Roan's Dyke footpath and Mitchell's former home.

What makes you think killer Luke Mitchell hid the knife/knifes he used in the woods?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1506 on: February 11, 2023, 12:38:43 AM »
What time was Shane Mitchell caught on CCTV at the petrol station on 30th June 2003?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1507 on: February 11, 2023, 12:40:45 AM »
Sandra Lean
Well, I'm pretty sure the last person you'd want working in your computer repair shop, or repairing your car, would be someone who was "very disturbed", but maybe that's just me????


What about un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton Sandra?

What work did Billy Middleton do on your computer and car/former Royal Mail van/bus?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1508 on: February 11, 2023, 12:52:35 AM »
According to a 2009 letter con artist Sandra Lean sent to killer Simon Hall she stated;

“I have a big exam on May 27th - the decider on whether I get to stay on the PhD course or not..”

What alleged exam was this - does anyone know?

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1509 on: February 11, 2023, 01:17:45 AM »
Sandra Lean
Well, I'm pretty sure the last person you'd want working in your computer repair shop, or repairing your car, would be someone who was "very disturbed", but maybe that's just me????


What about un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton Sandra?

What work did Billy Middleton do on your computer and car/former Royal Mail van/bus?

And what does your daughter say about this Sandra Lean ?

The same daughter you claimed kicked un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton out of your house after he apparently got up in your face?

The same Billy Middleton you claimed you and Ellie later found in a street in Edinburgh with his face ‘covered in blood’

The very same Billy Middleton you later went into partnership with WAP https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=442.msg9279#msg9279

Or maybe we’ll hear from Ellie on this - as she used to post on this forum, or the previous MOJ forum

« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 01:27:43 AM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1510 on: February 11, 2023, 08:51:03 AM »
And what does your daughter say about this Sandra Lean ?

The same daughter you claimed kicked un-convicted baby killer Billy Middleton out of your house after he apparently got up in your face?

The same Billy Middleton you claimed you and Ellie later found in a street in Edinburgh with his face ‘covered in blood’

The very same Billy Middleton you later went into partnership with WAP https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=442.msg9279#msg9279

Or maybe we’ll hear from Ellie on this - as she used to post on this forum, or the previous MOJ forum

And what forum were you alleging JuJ posted on back then Sandra?

Sandra Lean
Sometime later (much later), JuJ tried to claim on a forum that Jodi had borrowed a blue hoodie from Luke, and may have been wearing it on the evening of June 30th
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1511 on: February 11, 2023, 12:51:52 PM »
This is the same borderline criminal audience 90% of who believed that Luke was guilty when James English interviewed Dr Lean.

So when did the stupidity kick in, when they believed he was guilty or innocent ?

Interesting question as we don't know if this is a MORI or YouGov poll and only have JE's word on it. One explanation could be from a Marxist class perspective that the borderline criminals can relate more to ex-con and man of the streets Forbes than the leading criminologist Lean, who is more structured in her approach, although equally deceptive.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1512 on: February 11, 2023, 01:39:17 PM »
Interesting question as we don't know if this is a MORI or YouGov poll and only have JE's word on it. One explanation could be from a Marxist class perspective that the borderline criminals can relate more to ex-con and man of the streets Forbes than the leading criminologist Lean, who is more structured in her approach, although equally deceptive.

And John Scott KC where would you tag him? Or Professor Allan Jamieson?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Kenmair

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1513 on: February 11, 2023, 05:15:02 PM »
And John Scott KC where would you tag him? Or Professor Allan Jamieson?

Scott seems ok but has he actually said he supports LM or just that the investigation was flawed? Jamieson was suspended as a Police forensic scientist and has a conviction for harrassing a female motorist and impersonating a police officer so not the best character reference. My point was Forbes is using podcasts to appeal to people because of his background so the % will be increasing, however perhaps YouTube or FB is not the best gauge of public opinion.

Offline faithlilly

Re: "Innocents Betrayed " by Sandra Lean
« Reply #1514 on: February 11, 2023, 05:19:31 PM »
Scott seems ok but has he actually said he supports LM or just that the investigation was flawed? Jamieson was suspended as a Police forensic scientist and has a conviction for harrassing a female motorist and impersonating a police officer so not the best character reference. My point was Forbes is using podcasts to appeal to people because of his background so the % will be increasing, however perhaps YouTube or FB is not the best gauge of public opinion.


If the investigation was flawed then Luke’s conviction is unsafe….QED. If the investigation missed evidence due to those flaws then Luke’s conviction is unsafe. Scott was quite clear.


As to Jamieson, do you mean this story from nearly 30 years ago ?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12049924.woman-terrified-by-drivers-action-police-suspend-forensic-scientist/

Jamieson was sacked but later reinstated as the head of the Lothian and Borders Police forensic science department. He resigned his position in 2002.

Who do you think the ‘public’ are? Surely those who use Facebook and YouTube?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2023, 06:05:17 PM by faithlilly »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?